WHAT ON EARTH HAS HAPPENED TO CANADA?

Le Quebecois Libre ^ | October 25, 2003 | Chris Leithner

[freedumb2003]

In a word - Socialism.

And if they have their way, they'll do the same to California. Hopefully, it will be stopped in its tracks.

Just when I thought we in CA were collectively insane, we drew ourselves up and had ourselves a revolution. And we're not done yet -- the Car tax and Driver's licenses for Illegals are next. Piece by piece right-thinking Californians (more than anyone thought) will dismantle this Socialist Paradise that the Dims tried to build in the last few years.

Illegal Immigration is no longer the 3rd rail in politics. Those politicians (outside of the Bay area) who ignore it - INCLUDING BUSH - do so at their peril.

[Willie Green]

How did you manage to squeeze in between my double post when I know doggone well I only hit the post button once???

[Aura Of The Blade]

Considering that both the MoD and Chretien were asked NOT to attend the ceremonies for the two soldiers from 3RCR that were recently killed in Afghanistan speaks volumes. I can't think of one country where that ever happened before?

It's taken me a long time to accept the fact that the MAJORITY of Canadians have spoken and openely embrace socialism and everything that goes along with it. Leeches that have sucked the military dry to pay for foolish government programs. What a shame.

[friendly]

In all seriousness, the future of Canada lies in a politcal union with the United States.

Alberta: the 51st state!!!!!!

Many Albertans would leap at the opportunity to leave their exploitation by Ottawa.

[wiseone]

jamaican immigration equals jamaican gangs!!

Todays Toronto Sun:

Get tough with gangs of thugs

Vote for anti-crime campaign

Vicious gangs of home invaders who beat, rob and even rape victims are becoming all too common in the Toronto area. And with a Nov. 10 city election coming, it's more than high time that candidates paid more than lip service to the need to launch an all-out campaign against such crime.

For instance, at 12:50 a.m. Friday, three residents at an Etobicoke house shared by Humber College students were assaulted in a home invasion by four men armed with a handgun, a machete and a knife.

Police reported that one of the victims, a 20-year-old woman, was "taken into the bathroom and sexually assaulted."

She and a 22-year-old man were also duct taped while the invaders ransacked the house,

Later, a 19-year-old woman returned to the house from a Humber College party. The report stated she was "sexually assaulted, robbed of her bank card and a ring and forced to give her PIN numbers."

"She was grabbed, tied up, stripped and sexually assaulted by these pigs as well," was the way Toronto Police Det.-Sgt. Wilf Townley described the attack on the second woman.

TERSE REPORT

The terse police report added:

"Police are requesting the assistance of the public in identifying the following described persons in connection with this offense. Description of Suspect #1: Male, black, early 20s. 5-foot-10 to 5-foot-11, thin build. Suspect #2: Male, black with a light complexion, early 20s, 5-foot-7, 160 pounds. Suspect #3: Male, black, early 20s, 5-foot-10, medium build. Suspect #4: Male, black , 6-foot-2, slim build."

The gang, who wore masks and bandannas, fled with jewelry and the second woman's bank card.

"Even seasoned officers in this particular case are outraged and disgusted," commented Supt. Ron Taverner, unit commander of 23 Division.

Within the next 24 hours, three more home invasions took place in Toronto, along with a shooting at the CNE grounds.

One home invasion occurred Friday evening when four men armed with a handgun and a shotgun forced their way into a home at Scarlettwood Court and Eglinton Ave. W.

The victims were a man, woman and a 13-year-old boy. The man was pistol-whipped while the house was ransacked, with cash and a "CD blaster" stolen, stated the police report.

The report added: "Description of Suspect #1-#4: Male, black, 22 years."

In all cases, the perpetrators were still on the loose during the weekend.

But where and when does this kind of violence stop?

There was a time when a person's home in the Toronto area was his or her castle -- a safe refuge from the trials and tribulations of the outside world.

But today, with so little respect for law and order by these vicious gangs of thugs, this kind of thing -- muggings, rapes, robberies, break-ins and now home invasions -- are becoming all too common.

GROWTH INDUSTRY

The only people who are cheering -- besides the thugs -- are the mushrooming security firms busily installing burglar alarms and heavy-duty locks. It's a real growth industry.

Unfortunately, this increasingly threatening society we see unfolding before us just didn't happen by spontaneous combustion.

It has been encouraged during recent decades by such things as the actions of mostly federal Liberal governments and other vote-seeking politicians.

They've done it by such things as eliminating capital punishment for first-degree murder; making our country a haven for criminals due to a soft, wide-open immigration system; establishing weak, ineffectual laws for young offenders; and creating a Charter of Rights and Freedoms that's often used by criminals to beat the rap. The Charter also forced the scrapping of longstanding vagrancy laws -- allowing panhandlers and prostitutes to freely roam our streets.

Hopefully, in the upcoming city election voters will pay attention to those like mayoral candidate John Tory who promises to go all-out to fight crime. He has noted:

"Over the last 10 years in Toronto there were 209,688 homes broken into, 30,141 sexual assaults and 12,469 armed robberies. You can vote for more of the same or you can vote for a comprehensive plan to crack down on crime that includes hiring 400 more police officers for our streets to combat gangs, guns and drugs."

[Dr. Luv]

"Anytime I see the word "hate" I first think lefty."

Then we need a little self-examination cause this thread is nothing more than a hate Canada rant. Given how much we rely on them for the success of our economy, we shouldn't keep spitting in their soup...

[sausageseller]

"Hate Canada rant" is jsut garbage. When one points out something fallacies that doesn't equate to HATE!

Your use of the word hate is a hallmark of the left.

[sausageseller]

" Given how much we rely on them for the success of our economy, we shouldn't keep spitting in their soup...

SS. They rely on us for their success! And if you would read the article : The truth is they are spitting in their own soup!

[Sunsong]

I think you are right about Dr. Luv. It seems that he always shows up to defend Canadian anti-Americanism and socialism. That's a pretty strange philosophy for a conservative, imo.

Canada is a real mess and their anti-Americanism and creeping socialism pose a danger to us. I find Dr. Luv's opposition to our speaking the truth to be suspect!!!

[headsonpikes]

Excellent article!

IIRC, and I do, there was no finer place on the planet around 1960 than British Columbia.

No finer place on the planet. Then that b*stard Pearson and his cronies took power. After saddling us with Medicare and a beer-label flag, he handed the leadership to that b*stard Trudeau, an extreme leftie who, empowered by the fabulous corruption of the Liberal Party and the bizarre desire of Canadians to be 'hip', destroyed what was left of our legal heritage by imposing a new Constitution on the country.

Then there were some other b*stards. ;^)

Now, we're hooped. I advise my children to emigrate - Canada could well become a sort of East Germany of the 21st Century.

Posted with great sadness.

[sourcery]

Then we need a little self-examination cause this thread is nothing more than a hate Canada rant.

I posted the article because I love Canada, but hate socialism. I'd apply many analogous criticisms to many of the social and governing policies in the United States. I loathe and despise the New Deal, the Great Society, the income tax, the Federal Reserve and the idea that one person's needs form a valid call on the life, liberty or property of anyone else.

What about you?

[sourcery]

Vancouver is one of my favorite cities.

-- California/Bay Area resident/native (for 4 generations on my father's side.)

[Dr. Luv]

" I find Dr. Luv's opposition to our speaking the truth to be suspect!"

What nonsense. This thread is all about belittling another country - what precisely is conservative about that? Canada has much to recommend it and there is a great deal that we can learn from them. Despite our constant prattle about their socialistic tendencies, many people here with opinions about Canada actually know nothing about them and have never been there.

For example, did you know they have run a surplus budget every year for the last seven or eight years? That they have decided they need to pay down their debt and not load it onto the backs of their children (like we have done). That they, by far, buy and sell more to us than any other country? That doesn’t sound very Marxist to me…

Finally, does the constant avalanche of disparaging comments about our northern neighbor make us feel better about ourselves? I can think of no other reason for it to be done…

[Sunsong]

Perhaps you could benefit from re-reading this thread and especially your own comments.

You seem either to be unwilling or unable to understand what the difference between "conservative" and "socialist" is. You also seem to have no comprehension about the difference between speaking the truth and "belittling" a country. It is my view that Canada is in decline and people like you who blindly defend Her deterioration are indeed suspect.

Clinton paid off the deficit on the backs of tax payers as Canada is doing. There is nothing "conservative" about that. Conservatism is about respecting individuality, personal liberty and personal responsibility within a Constitutional Republic and the rule of law. Canada is about collectivism, anti-Americansim, smug complaceny and socialism.

If that appeals to you and conservatism does not, perahps you would be happier up North???

[Dr. Luv]

Translation:

"If you don't see things my way, then you are not a conservative."

Predictable claptrap from someone who seems to know nothing about our northern neighbor. Have you ever actually been to canada? This concept that we have nothing to learn from anyone else is a disturbing trend on this forum and a real weakness amongst conservatives.

[headsonpikes]

Dr.Luv, as a Canucklehead posting here for a couple of years, I can assure you that I, at least, am not offended by American hostility to Northern Sopcialism. Your countrymen may be somewhat provincial in their perspectives, but they are a breath of fresh air compared to the fatuous smarminess of Canada's established opinion-makers.

Mind you, I'm not surprised that you chaps cheer on your own Southern Socialists in their familiar guise as 'good citizens', protecting the population from self-reliance.

Anyways, conservatives are no more ignorant than liberals. ;^)

[TomHarkinIsNotFromIowa]

Could this be remenants of the Vietnam war. The draft dodgers going up north also?

[Sunsong]

I probably know more about Canada than you do, but you appear to be so close-minded that facts are not going impact you. And yes, I have been to Canada, and I have been to Europe, and I know the difference between conservatism and socialism. You apparently are here promulgating socialism -- as something we can "learn". I guess it has never occurred to you that maybe we are informed and know what Canada is about and just don't like it.

Maybe you also think that we should explore the "root causes" of terrorism and "learn" from the militant Islamics so that they won't hate us so much...

Have you ever really studied the founding of this country? Have you ever really studied that Founding Documents, the Federalist Papers, the biographies of Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Franklin etc??

Maybe, instead of trying to "teach" others, Dr. Luv, you would do well to take your own advice and "learn" from conservatives...

[Dr. Luv]

"I probably know more about Canada than you do"

Given the vicious and stupid things you've said about Canada on this and other threads, that seems unlikely.

Here's something you said a while ago on another thread that lends credence to you not having adequate access to the facts: "I hope this leads to much stricker and slower border crossing between America and Canada. I hope this leads to tedious and thorough checks of everything and everybody coming into this country from Cannuckistan."

Anyone with an IQ over a hundred would know that your above suggestion would cripple their economy - at the same time that it crippled ours. We receive car parts from plants in Ontario in JIT delivery for the automotive engine of Michigan. This is just one of the many industries that would be destroyed by “tedious and thorough checks of everything and everybody coming into this country”. The economy of our country is directly linked to the economy of theirs – stupid border wars would be tantamount to shooting ourselves in the foot. Or perhaps you would like a wrecked economy in order to make your point? Fortunately for us, the leadership of our country are not as witless or as small-minded as to take your advice.

[Sunsong]

Translation:

"I refuse to discuss anything. I am only going to attack those who don't agree with me"

You have not responded to anything that I have said. It seems to me that you are just here to promulgate socialism and defend it in Canada. Do you prefer that we NOT have tedious checks on our borders??? Do you prefer that we are just "trust" Canada to radically change and start caring about terrorists??? The same Canada that would not even lift a finger to help us in Iraq? The same Canada that calls our President a moron and us Americans "bastards"? The same Canada that tells us they are "morally superior" to us because they are more socialist???

It seems to me that the one who is being vicious here is you. For whatever reason you think you are "entitled" to come onto a conservative American site and tell people that they should "learn" from you and socialist countries like Canada. For whatever reason you seem to think you are "entitled" to come onto a conservative American site and tell people that you don't like their opinions and that they shouldn't hold the opinions they do, because, I guess, *you* disagree with them.

As I said, maybe it is you who needs to "learn" something from us...