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I don't know why, but last night was the slooooowest Halloween I've ever experienced in my life. We had less than a dozen kids in 4~5 groups come through our neighborhood last night. (Just a fraction of what we had last year.)

The weather was a little chilly, but still pretty clear and calm. Heck, even 6" of snow wouldn't stop the trick-or-treaters back in Pennsylvania.

I don't know what happened.
But oh well... tough beans for the kiddies.
That's just more candy for Willie Green to polish-off while watching football.

1 posted on 11/01/2003 12:12:31 PM PST by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green
My six year old son informed me that some kids don't celebrate Halloween because it is Satan's birthday.

I then explained to him that Satan/Lucifer wasn't human, and doesn't have a birthday. Then we went trick or treating! :)
2 posted on 11/01/2003 12:15:54 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (You may forget the one with whom you have laughed, but never the one with whom you have wept.)
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To: Willie Green
I don't know why, but last night was the slooooowest Halloween I've ever experienced in my life. We had less than a dozen kids in 4~5 groups come through our neighborhood last night. (Just a fraction of what we had last year.)

I didn't have as many kids either. I still ran out of candy though (part of that was my fault).

3 posted on 11/01/2003 12:18:46 PM PST by Hacksaw
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To: Willie Green
Same thing here. . . guess the PC weenies have won. . . THIS round. . .
4 posted on 11/01/2003 12:29:05 PM PST by Salgak (don't mind me: the orbital mind control lasers are making me write this. . .)
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To: Willie Green
I liked this article. It's true - all the fun has gone out of being a kid.

I used to ride my bike to the opposite side of LONG ISLAND, NY! On a Schwinn 3 speed. I'd leave early on a Saturday AM and get back by dark, no helmet, etc. It had to have been around 40 miles round trip (I lived on the South shore, biked to Port Washington).

And Halloween - Omigod. Sis and I plotted out a map where
we'd hit the max number of houses without having to repeat our steps. And we scheduled in a "candy dump" at my parents house halfway through, because we were so loaded down that we could barely walk. Plus, we found out you got more if your bag was almost empty ::lol:: , mercenary little beasts that we were.

LQ
5 posted on 11/01/2003 12:29:43 PM PST by LizardQueen
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Did yinzes have many halloweenies show up at yinz's hauses n'at???
6 posted on 11/01/2003 12:32:35 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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Collecting hundreds of dollars for UNICEF, teenagers felt grown-up and useful. Trading in your candy bag for a UNICEF box was a rite of passage.

Wow, that's almost enough to build a suicide bomb belt, or to sponsor a dozen Palestinian children for a month of jihad summer camp training.

8 posted on 11/01/2003 12:48:07 PM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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I live in a very rural area and get no trick-or-treaters!

Luckily, the area has some events for the children. On Thursday I took my seven-year-old grandson to the Halloween Festival at Silver Springs Nature Park. They had games for the kids, magic shows, and the greatest monster maze.

Last night we went to the local mall which has a special Halloween event each year. There were hundreds and hundreds of costumed kids and adults ... it was one great big party and we had a blast!

My late husband was a law enforcement officer and we dressed my grandson in some of grandpop's uniform. He wore the hat, which was too big, had a real badge, nightstick, handcuffs, and carried a summons book. He was so cute!

13 posted on 11/01/2003 1:12:17 PM PST by Beach_Babe
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I'm Jewish and we never did Halloween when I was a kid. Nor do I do it now. Jewish kids get to dress up on Purim. Am I going into conniptions because my next-door neighbor's kids don't do that?

What's the big deal? It was never an "issue", we just didn't do it. I guess everything is an "issue" now.

14 posted on 11/01/2003 1:14:42 PM PST by Salman (Mickey Akbar)
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Thanks for posting this article. The writer nailed it about kid's sports. Adults have ruined the whole experience. I have had other moms at games tell me that "daddy and junior" rehash the game and the plays all the way home and "junior" ends up crying. I always wonder silently why the kid would ever want to play with that kind of pressure. The weird part is I usually know the dads and they sure weren't superstars themselves. Adults behavior seems to be worse with baseball and basketball. We just finished junior-pro football and it was a wonderful season.
16 posted on 11/01/2003 1:17:31 PM PST by gingerky
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Excellent article, and so true. IMHO One reason for the lack of freedom to be kids, is that there's no longer a parent, and neighbors home during the day. I know when I was growing up my mom was home for the most part, as were most of my friends mothers as well as neighbors. Even though we were made to "go outside and get some fresh air" our parents knew that wherever we went there was someone we knew close by (whether or not we kids realized it). Nowadays where it takes 2 incomes to get by , or worse you're a single parent and have to work insane hours just to get by it's not safe to let your kids out "unsupervised".
18 posted on 11/01/2003 1:33:03 PM PST by YankeeReb
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Not here is South Orange County, CA. We live in a community filled with small kids and they were out in full force. I think after some of our recent disasters (the fires, Gray Davis), everybody wanted to go out and have some fun. We ran out of candy and I had to run to the store for more and got to cross the picket line again (an added fun bonus).

The streets were filled with kids, the costumes were cute, and the kids were well-mannered. About an hour after the last kid came by, it started to rain hard (yeah, help w/ the fires). It was a good night.
19 posted on 11/01/2003 1:34:03 PM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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For older kids, trick or treating for UNICEF was the only way to go. Today, kids can't wait to slough off childhood when it comes to music, clothing and sexuality but seem to trick-or-treat well into their college years. Baby boomer kids would have been humiliated to be found trick-or-treating in their teens. Collecting hundreds of dollars for UNICEF, teenagers felt grown-up and useful. Trading in your candy bag for a UNICEF box was a rite of passage.

I must have lead a sheltered childhood.

20 posted on 11/01/2003 1:37:36 PM PST by RippleFire
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To: Willie Green
I don't consider Halloween a "Christian" holiday just like I don't consider Christmas a totally Christian holiday. Both were stolen from older celebrations by the Christians, who bullied, pressured and beat-in-the-head older groups into believing the "true" religion. It's pretty ironic that Christians feel that "their" holidays have been taken over by commericalism when it isn't "their" holidays to start with. On the plus side, Christianity has given us nifty stuff like witches and devils, not to mention talking manger animals and lit-up plastic angels to sit on top of the roof. :)
22 posted on 11/01/2003 1:40:00 PM PST by Merdoug
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The Halloween PC police haven't hit our town yet. The schools still had Halloween parties and we had over 100 kids haunt our door last night.
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23 posted on 11/01/2003 1:42:00 PM PST by moodymare
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I'm glad my daughter doesn't celebrate Halloween at school. We prefer "harvest celebrations". Outside of school she goest to a party, dressed up and they then celebrate Reformation Day in honor of Luther.

Ever check the roots of Halloween? It's an import from Catholicism that's been twisted.

24 posted on 11/01/2003 1:42:30 PM PST by nmh
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It was a very weak turnout, one of the lowest in the 20 years we've been here. We had perhaps 40 kids max, mostly toddlers.
30 posted on 11/01/2003 1:59:31 PM PST by csvset
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The harvest celebrators saw Halloween as someone else's holiday. When my children were in preschool, both Jewish and Christian schools objected to Halloween. The Jewish preschool teachers explained to me, a Christian, that Halloween celebrated a Christian holiday, All Saint's Day. Though I grew up Catholic, this was news to me, but OK, no Halloween party in Jewish preschool. One year later, in a Christian preschool: no Halloween party because Halloween was a devil-worshipping, Satanic holiday

Actually October 31 is All Souls Day. All Saints Day is today November 1

33 posted on 11/01/2003 2:03:17 PM PST by Kaslin
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trick or treating for UNICEF was the only way to go

Trick or Treat to kill unborn children

34 posted on 11/01/2003 2:13:41 PM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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Same thing here: We had a grand total of 37 kids stop by-most of them little ones ( with watchful parents on the sidewalk). Typically we have at least twice that number-plus older kids racing the curfew to grab a few goodies.

It was a beautiful,clear, warm night, and there hadn't been any untoward incidents involving children in this area in quite a long time.

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59 posted on 11/01/2003 3:19:35 PM PST by genefromjersey (So little time - so many FLAMES to light !!)
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"Funny" that in more "conservative" times...children were safe on the streets, and unafraid to eat food given to them by total strangers.

Muttly also notices how many self-labelled "liberals" actually raise their children in "conservative," almost Victorian ways....then scratch their heads about what went wrong with the world, compared to their own, much more free and safe childhoods.

Then they vote against what they themselves do, and want.

"He who controls communications, controls the world." - Adolf Hitler
60 posted on 11/01/2003 3:27:50 PM PST by PoorMuttly ("You cannot be a victim and a hero." - Hon. Clarence Thomas)
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