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To: Happy2BMe; xsmommy; Loyalist; drstevej
McBrien depicts Christ as if he did not always know who he was. Taking his cue from certain biblical scholars, he attributes both ignorance and error to Christ: "Did Jesus, finally, know himself to be the unique Son of God? It is true that Jesus spoke of God as his Father in such a way as to suggest a special, intimate relationship. But there is no incontrovertible proof that he claimed a unique sonship not open to other persons" (p. 551). McBrien even supports the case that Christ could have sinned (p. 547).

This priest who Vargas relies up on wrote the above. Mc Brien is a heretic.

3 posted on 11/01/2003 7:24:09 AM PST by NeoCaveman (This Halloween Voinovich is dressing up as a Republican)
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To: secret garden
See #3. Anglicans aren't the only ones with cause to be embarrassed by their clergy.
7 posted on 11/01/2003 7:26:58 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Ohio, vote no on Issue 1)
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To: dubyaismypresident
Oh Good Grief.There is nothing in the Bible that suggests his marriage.
10 posted on 11/01/2003 7:28:30 AM PST by MEG33
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To: dubyaismypresident
But there is no incontrovertible proof that he claimed a unique sonship not open to other persons

Two points here really:

1 there is no incontrovertible proof that he claimed a unique sonship

I don’t know what he means by incontrovertible, but John 14:1-4 ”1’Do not let your hearts be troubled. Trust in God; trust also in me. 2In my Father's house are many rooms; if it were not so, I would have told you. I am going there to prepare a place for you. 3And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. 4You know the way to the place where I am going.’” seems to answer nicely.

2 unique sonship not open to other persons

Besides being redundant – any unique relationship is, by definition, not open to other persons – this misses the Point. While Jesus is the only begotten Son of God, we are all sons and daughters of God.

44 posted on 11/01/2003 8:32:36 AM PST by Friend of thunder (No sane person wants war, but oppressors want oppression.)
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To: dubyaismypresident
Does McBrein harbor a secret wish to be Episcopalian? He'd fit right in with the delegates at this year's general convention.
79 posted on 11/01/2003 9:36:34 AM PST by secret garden (Pray as though your life depends on it)
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