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To: Huber
Saying that he was a hero, however, is a fairly broad statement. Can you provide any facts for us to back up your point?

Well, the early 70's were a terrible time for the cause of Freedom in the world. The communists were on the march all over the world, and South America was looking good for them. Pinochet was not neccessarily the obvious choice to lead the coup. He led the coup because where other generals demurred in the face trouble, afraid of course of the consequences, Pinochet stood up to be counted because he did not want to see Chile and South America fall to the communists. And it's not like Pinochet did this on a whim, he ahd the support of both the congress and the supreme court.

After he won, he instituted sweeping free-market reforms, creating a retirment system that we ought to emulate. Later, when the communist threat was gone, he voluntarily stepped down and held free elections. Who knows what South America would look like if not for Piochet? Who knows whether or not hte Soviet Union would have collapsed had all of South America gone communist? Yes, some communists were killed by the government. It was war. You cannot expect a fragile government to stand idly by while communists financed by Cuba and the Soviet Union attempt to topple it and replace it with a communist dictatorship. If freedom is a natural right, then those who attempt to take away freedom by foreign financed insurrection should expect to be treated as foregin soldiers committing an act of war.

What is needed today is more leaders like Pinochet in Brazil and Venezuela.

13 posted on 11/01/2003 8:23:00 AM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Rodney King
Pinochet is absolutely guilty on the count of disposing (execution) of citizens without any real court. There are tens of thousands of people who simply disappeared, without any trace. And most of the people who supported the idea of a military coup as it started....quickly frowned in horror as it unfolded. There were army patrols who were simply grabbing 17-year old girls off the street, who had made subversive comments in public in the past.

As for Kissinger...if you go though his entire dossier...he has several issues...of which this Chile matter is simply one of them. Look at what he did during the Johnson administration with the Vietnam war negotations...he actually prolonged the war by four years. The agreement that everyone signed in the end...was basically the same agreement that was on the table when he helped to screw up the situation to help the Nixon team win the election in 1968. For his efforts in delaying the original agreement...he moved from being the head of the Vietname War negoation team...to his cabinet post. No one can really argue about this...and it shows his personal goals were above the nations.
103 posted on 11/01/2003 9:16:21 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: Rodney King

105 posted on 11/01/2003 9:17:10 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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