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To: Dimensio
Evidence?

Okay, I will play your game and then watch you explain it away. Mathematics. Heard of it? Calculate the probability of mutations happening in this many species in a positive manner to yield "improved" results. Math, you have heard of it, all sciences use it? All evolutionists dodge this fact. You have a better chance of having a purple dragon flying out of your butt than of positive mutations happening over billions of years to create the mass number of species we have alive today.

Are you referring to any generic god, or a specific God in particular?

Take your pick...here, I will add some to the fray. It takes less faith to believe in Bigfoot (not the truck), those purple dragons, and lochness monster, and the gremlins that cause my computer to crash. Generic or specific God...you choose.

Here is your strawman: explain to me how every species on this planet could have divided into two genders (please don't point to the few examples of asexual creatures). How is it that 99.99999% of all species have a male and female? How could that have "evolved" by cance mutations in separate species?

106 posted on 11/02/2003 5:10:26 AM PST by milan
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To: milan
How does ID/creationism explain why dandelions produce flowers?
108 posted on 11/02/2003 5:28:19 AM PST by general_re ("I am Torgo. I take care of the place while the Master is away.")
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To: milan
Mathematics.

Plastics.

109 posted on 11/02/2003 7:37:50 AM PST by VadeRetro (Words are not crucifixes to chase away vampires.)
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To: milan
I will play your game and then watch you explain it away. Mathematics. Heard of it?

Yes, I have. I suspect that you're about to go on some tirade on "probability" and invoke totally unrealistic probabilities in an attempt to "prove" that evolution is "statistically impossible".

Calculate the probability of mutations happening in this many species in a positive manner to yield "improved" results.

Yep, you did. Except that your argument is even less thought-out than the usual probability arguments. For one, it's far too inspecific. Are you referring to the probability of it occuring across all life forms on the planet? In that case, there are very good odds that amongst all the reproduction going on at any given time that there will be beneficial mutations. Maybe not as good as 50%, but certainly a measurable amount and even at smaller probabilities, the continued series of reproductions will result in additional beneficial mutations which increase the number of organisms with higher survival chances due to their beneficial mutations.

Math, you have heard of it, all sciences use it? All evolutionists dodge this fact.

No, the problem is that creationists often misuse it in an attempt to construct bogus arguments using false probabilities to "prove" that evolution is statistically impossible in much the same way that I could "prove" that it is statistically impossible that you were ever born.

You have a better chance of having a purple dragon flying out of your butt than of positive mutations happening over billions of years to create the mass number of species we have alive today.

Now you're just making things up. You've not even calculated the probabilities for beneficial mutations over millions of years, much less the probability of a purple dragon flying out of anyone's butt. That you use such vague and bizarre argument tactics tells me that you've pulled this "information" from a creationist reading material, but you've failed to do any of the calculations yourself.

It takes less faith to believe in Bigfoot (not the truck), those purple dragons, and lochness monster, and the gremlins that cause my computer to crash.

Okay. Why? Justify your answer.

explain to me how every species on this planet could have divided into two genders

Every species on this planet hasn't divided into two genders.

(please don't point to the few examples of asexual creatures).

Few? FEW?! Dual-genders only exist in kingdom Animalia! There are four other kingdoms!

If you're wanting to know how every animal species became multigendered, then you've already made an erroneous assumption. The gender-split didn't just happen to occur within multiple species at the same time, it happened in one spcies that branched off into the various multisexual organisms that we see today. If you have a question about how it really happened as opposed to your strawman scenario, I'll dig up some information for you.

How is it that 99.99999% of all species have a male and female?

99.99999% of all species don't have male and female distinction. Those species that do have such distinction do so because of a common ancestor that developed it, not because they all developed such on their own, individually.

How could that have "evolved" by cance mutations in separate species?

It didn't. See above.
116 posted on 11/02/2003 10:35:32 AM PST by Dimensio (The only thing you feel when you take a human life is recoil. -- Frank "Earl" Jones)
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