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Man Shot Outside L.A. Court Hearing in Blake Case
Washington Post ^ | 31 Oct 2003 | AP - Wash Post

Posted on 10/31/2003 12:31:44 PM PST by July 4th

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To: Amelia
The Democratic Party's fictional history of America?

It was first composed as the minority report in the Klu Klux Klan hearings of 1871. Woodrow Wilson then codified the racial essense of it in his 'History of the American People.' Since then, it has been continually pumped as an organizer for the Democratic Party, but following desegregation in the South the Dems dropped it and it wandered over into the Republican camp. Ah, the dangers of a history that is a lie agreed upon.

Pray tell what part is false?

The romantic imagery associated with the sum of all evils known as slavery. It first started as the justification for the organization of the slave patrols and the Konfederat vets into the Reconstruction KKK. It was embedded into our education system in the Wilson era. In no small part credit for this goes to the media, and Wilson was our first president to really understand and abuse the power of the mass media, most notably in 'Birth of a Nation,' which was adapted directly from his 'History of the American People.'

Tell me the New England states didn't think they had the RIGHT to secede in the early 1800s?

Some folks did, but they didn't. Tell me J.Q. Adams wasn't censored in the House by the southern representative for just mentioning that possibility.

Tell me the founders didn't say that when a government became oppressive it was the right of the people to overthrow it?

Yes, they did, but it was the south that boycotted the Convention of the States in 1861, not the North. The right to secede was recognized by the North. The right to steal from and engage in open warfare with the Northern states was not. In any case, as Alexander Stephens noted directly after the war, it was not a war against slavery, it was a war to protect African subordination.

You don't think that the Civil War was one of the milestones on the path to the overwhelmingly large Federal government we have today?

It was the end of the first real attempt to install such a thing. That attempt came in the form of the fugitive slave act which attempted to install slavery into free states. What remained afterwards was the heritage of the tyranny of the Davis government, which is today the very epitomy the thing you falsely credit to Lincoln. It is simply absurd to see someone like you rant about the 14,000 violations of Habeus Corpus credited to Lincoln, when Davis did it for 9 millions, 3.5 million of whom never even had the right to be considered a human being.

301 posted on 11/01/2003 7:30:45 AM PST by Held_to_Ransom
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To: Held_to_Ransom
You are trying to make my comments into white supremacist comments, when they are not - simply anti-Federalist comments.
302 posted on 11/01/2003 7:38:18 AM PST by Amelia
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To: MinuteGal
Then, like the cavalry, out of nowhere comes the heroic off-duty officer who makes that flying neck-hold and bring-down of the old dude in the twinkling of an eye.

That wasn't really heroic. Cool, but not heroic.

Heroic would've been if he had tackled the guy while he was doing the shooting, which from the look of the tape he easily could've done. The shooter was so involved in his, uh, work that a couple guys could've taken him down easy.

Snidely

303 posted on 11/01/2003 7:43:36 AM PST by Snidely Whiplash
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
Are you being serious?

I think SS was making a broader point about our being a nation of laws, and that attacking those who are charged with keeping this a nation of laws is not merely a personal attack, but in fact an attack on the fabric of our government and society. Last I checked, America still wasn't a nation of churches. Filled with religious people, yes, but that's a different thing altogether.

Snidely

304 posted on 11/01/2003 7:46:14 AM PST by Snidely Whiplash
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To: tubavil
"Only what millions of Americans would love to do to lawyers!"


This is THE way to control the growing lawyer population... weapons for everyone who sees a lawyer! (-:
305 posted on 11/01/2003 7:57:25 AM PST by FlyLow ("Arguing with a liberal is like wrestling a pig in the mud; soon you realize they like it")
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To: Snidely Whiplash
You gotta be kidding.

Leni

306 posted on 11/01/2003 7:59:14 AM PST by MinuteGal
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To: JoJo Gunn
Please, remind me why I should have sympathy for that old fool, much less the lawyers and the judge who allowed such fantastic nonsense to begin with.

Just the facts here:

1. The coffee in question was near-boiling, despite numberous (like 700) previous reports and warnings to McD's that they were serving their coffee Too Damned Hot. Coffee outta your coffee maker, which feels boiling, is really only about 140F, which isn't hot enough to cause serious, significant injury. The coffee in question was more like 190F. McD's reps testified in open court that the company required that the coffee be kept that hot, even though they knew damned well that doing so could cause severe injury.

2. The plaintiff sustained 3rd-degree burns, not internal injuries, to her crotchular area and legs, which required debridement and skin grafts.

3. The plaintiff in the case actually asked McD's to settle before trial for like $20K, but they refused.

4. The jury found the plaintiff 20% at fault, and awarded her $160K in actual damages, plus $2.7M in punitive damages, roughly equivalent to 2 days' coffee sales for McDonald's. The punitive award was later reduced to $480,000. An out-of-court settlement was eventually reached, which remains secret.

Snidely

307 posted on 11/01/2003 9:23:10 AM PST by Snidely Whiplash
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To: MinuteGal
You gotta be kidding.

I ain't smiling, babe. People use the word "hero" far too loosely these days.

Snidely

308 posted on 11/01/2003 9:24:18 AM PST by Snidely Whiplash
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To: per loin
It looks like the lawyer kept talking too, which makes the self defense plea reasonable.

LOL.

309 posted on 11/01/2003 10:02:49 AM PST by spald
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To: goldilucky; Catspaw
If you ever notice outside any federal courthouse, as you enter the above plaque reads "Department of War".

Actually, it doesn't. It says "Department of Justice."

310 posted on 11/01/2003 10:09:42 AM PST by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Major Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: July 4th
In the background you can see a woman speaking on a pay phone.....and a man in a police uniform just standing there with his hands in his pockets.

The camerman thought it was more important to get the film than to be a human being (his words) and tackle the shooter.

311 posted on 11/01/2003 10:34:52 AM PST by OldFriend (DEMS INHABIT A PARALLEL UNIVERSE)
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To: FlyLow
A 24 hour cable channel with excellent action video like in this incident is an option.

"The Justice Channel."

312 posted on 11/01/2003 10:35:14 AM PST by tubavil
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To: Catspaw
Picture in today's New York Post. We see the man from the back and side in the video. The front, which is what all the gawkers saw, shows blood pouring from the man's head and face.

So nice that everyone just stood there and watched! sarcasm

313 posted on 11/01/2003 10:39:41 AM PST by OldFriend (DEMS INHABIT A PARALLEL UNIVERSE)
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To: LittleRedRooster
You are right about the woman. It's obvious that she is calling in the incident from the pay phone.

That it took them 278 posts to notice this (with help from you) tells us all we need to know about the intelligence level of the majority of posters on this thread. ;)
314 posted on 11/01/2003 10:42:20 AM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: PLMerite
I have continually had trouble coming up with any sympathy for Bonnie Lee Bakley.

But I know that someone who would kill her would also kill me if I got in their way the way she did.

Not saying that person was Blake.
315 posted on 11/01/2003 10:44:26 AM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Catspaw
No, they can't reward the tackler--he's a lawyer.
316 posted on 11/01/2003 10:46:20 AM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: OldFriend
Obviously the cameraman already knew the victim was just a lawyer.
317 posted on 11/01/2003 10:49:03 AM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse
Obviously the cameraman already knew the victim was just a lawyer.

Just a lawyer?

Lawyers are the very foundation of our civilization! ;-)

318 posted on 11/01/2003 10:53:40 AM PST by Scenic Sounds (Me caigo a mis rodillas y hablo a las estrellas de plata. "¿Qué misterios usted está encubriendo?")
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To: Scenic Sounds
Oh, shut up! ;)
319 posted on 11/01/2003 10:58:49 AM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse
No, they can't reward the tackler--he's a lawyer.

He's also a reserve deputy sheriff.

320 posted on 11/01/2003 11:04:29 AM PST by Catspaw
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