[Libertina]

FYI Carry_Okie is a respected environmental expert. Might want to atleast try and have a civil conversation with him.

[OldFriend]

You mean disagreeing with one's position is now considered uncivil?????????????

As I said, who should I believe, my lying ears or Okie's defense of the sainted Senator Feinstein?

When a politician refuses to do the right thing because one of her avowed enemies might benefit I have NO respect for that position whatsoever. After all, ONLY a few thousand homes have burned, and ONLY 20 people have died. Can't let the loggers log now can we.