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To: Virginia-American
There is a widespread perception, which the D*ms are more than eager to exploit, that the GOP, and conservatives in general, are anti-science.

It is the evolutionists who are anti-science as I have detailed on these threads numerous times. Science is about cause and effect, about predictable and repeatable occurrences. A theory, like evolution, which claims that biological change occurs randomly is perforce anti-science. To this one must add evolutionist's use of such words as 'imagine', 'possibly', 'could be' and 'perhaps' as proof of their theory. This started with Darwin and continues to this day. They call this science and have tried to push this totally unscientific criteria unto the scientific community. So, yes, evolution is anti-science and if you are a friend of science, then you (meaning not just you, but all who believe in truth and the value of true science) should be opposed to evolution.

Further, politics is not just about making oneself the same as the opposition which is what you are advocating, it is about establishing one's views and ideas in the battle for the conscience of the society. Without winning the battle of ideas, the political battles will eventually be lost. The Democrats know this and that is why they try to destroy the basis of conservatism in every way possible. The basis of conservatism is Christianity as almost every conservative will tell you.

Evolution is a theory promoted by atheists, for atheists and to spread and undermine the moral and Christian fabric of the country. It was used in such a way in Germany. It was used by the Communists and is still being used by them in that way. It is used by the atheists in this country, that is why they join hands with evolutionists in the school battles. It is used in the same way by liberals, Democrats and the NEA in those most important battles that try to drive God from the schools.

As to evolution being scientifically true, the use of insults and character assassination by evolutionists at those who give scientific evidence which they cannot refute shows very well that evolution is not science. For those who still wonder what the scientific facts against evolution are they can check out Evidence Disproving Evolution. There are also numerous Amazing Creatures which could never have arisen if evolution were true. There is also tons of Nobel Prize design in DNA which shows evolution to have been impossible. All the above and more are ample reasons for reasonable people to have said Bye, Bye Darwin a long time ago.

410 posted on 11/01/2003 6:05:25 PM PST by gore3000 ("To say dogs, mice, and humans are all products of slime plus time is a mystery religion.")
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To: gore3000
A theory, like evolution, which claims that biological change occurs randomly is perforce anti-science.

See, this is just one tiny example of the kind of thing we go over and over with you. You are saying something false about evolution. You have it wrong at a very fundamental level.

Evolution says that different species arise from common ancestry via variation and natural selection. The variation is the only random part. Natural selection--the word "selection" should give you a clue--is non-random. Evolution, the joint operation of variation and natural selection--is non-random. Over time, it produces a convergence upon adaptation to current conditions.

426 posted on 11/01/2003 6:38:41 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: gore3000
Evolution is a theory promoted by atheists, for atheists and to spread and undermine the moral and Christian fabric of the country.

You know that's not true! How many time do you have to be told that *most* US biologists are both Christian and evolutionist?! (and I suppose most Indian biologists are both Hindu and evo, and most Paki ones are Muslim and evo, etc. Get it?)

And even if your slander were true, it has no impact on the theory. It lives or dies on the evidence, and it's flourishing today as never before.

Science is about cause and effect, about predictable and repeatable occurrences.

Found that Cambrian bryozoan yet?

or the Cambrian rabbit?

or the pseudogene... (you know it by heart now)...

or the fossil intermediate between a bird and a mammal?

Why aren't these predictable and repeated?

It is used by the atheists in this country, that is why they join hands with evolutionists in the school battles

As you know, most evos are Christians of one sort or another.

As to evolution being scientifically true, the use of insults and character assassination by evolutionists

But calling people militant anti-christian atheists, communists, nazis, nea partisans, frauds, charlatans, liars, underminers of the morals of the country (that's what they got Socrates on), etc. isn't "insults and character assassination"?

439 posted on 11/01/2003 6:56:15 PM PST by Virginia-American
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To: gore3000
While others will disagree, I for one am sorry to see you go. I can honestly say that the debate we've had was the best, most fun, and most cordial debate I've ever had on the Internet.

I can't agree with what you've said to JR and the mods, but it does take a lot of courage to stand up for what you believe in against the top authorities.
486 posted on 11/01/2003 8:56:26 PM PST by Nataku X (Praise the Lord! May Terri recover from her starvation ordeal; may her parents become her guardians.)
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