To: js1138
I don't believe in miracles, I believe in a command of physics, or something beyond physics, beyond quantum mechanics, that we have not attained to yet, but can and will.
I just hate to see the possibilities delayed because of the fear of looking silly studying magic wands, or clues left us by a book that some maintain isn't the oldest, but certainly covers the history of the father and mother of the chinese, along with the rest of us, and the history of the earth and it's earth ages.
I'm saying that science based some of it's studies on alot of mis conceptions and flawed deductions and directions, evolution as an explination for the mutation of species from one animal into another animal for example, carbon dating that might be a flawed measure in some instances. Start fresh, with a fresh mind, from another direction with different set of conceptions to base their studies on using the clues left in the Bible for instance and plugging in what has been provable when it fits and is needed from past scientific studies.
What would happen if science set aside the assumption that creeping things had to have an earlier start than what scripture maintains, as a "yet to be proven". Science certainly set aside alot of things while they maintained that one animal evolved into another, proping up evolution, why can't they do the same for seeing if the bible will save them alot of time and misdirection? I feel very confident that it would and will if it's given the opportunity.
I have never looked at the bible as just a history book, or a book of fables, or moral lessons, to me it's also futuristic in the most exciting way. I have every confidence that mankind will never end and that what he can accomplish has no limits and that we need have no fear of losing the light of the sun, or expanding out into dark nothingness and I know that science will finally come to that realization itself eventually. I just get exasperated at the limits and the pace of science that I feel sometimes is self inflicted.
To: MissAmericanPie
I don't believe in miracles, I believe in a command of physics, or something beyond physics, beyond quantum mechanics, that we have not attained to yet, but can and will. This pretty much describes the history of science. What's missing from your scenerio is the necessity of doing the dirty work, digging in the trenches, coming up with verifiable hypotheses, having ideas checked by others for self-consistency and consistency with other known facts. In short, science speculates, but does not try to inhabit the castles it builds in the air. Having said this, I have to admit that scientists, as individuals, can have looney political ideas and write looney tracts for the public. But every family has a crazy aunt in the closet.
251 posted on
10/31/2003 11:52:52 AM PST by
js1138
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