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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Conservatives on the other hand, constantly talk about the ultimate objective [prolifers are guilty, Newt was guilty, etc.] and all they do is provide fodder for the enemy and energize voters from the other side.

Which conservatives would these be? Not the ones who are actually in power, and that is indeed why they fail conservatism.

The conservative politicians who were most successful at advancing the cause - I'm particularly thinking of Goldwater and Reagan - most certainly did not talk around the subject. They weren't afraid of criticism, and so they were able to stare it down. The nice guys won't get anywhere.

15 posted on 10/30/2003 8:09:55 AM PST by inquest ("Where else do gun owners have to go?" - Lee Atwater)
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To: inquest
I was thinking in particular of the conservatives who write the planks for the GOP.

Every election cycle, conservatives are forced to answer why they support abortion in the case of rape and incest.

Liberals are much smarter than conservatives. They would never have a plank in their platform calling for socialized medicine, gay marriage or higher taxes.

They simply move America in that direction each year step by step.
16 posted on 10/30/2003 9:26:01 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: inquest
This was found on Issues2000.org:

Reagan was not as obsessive about anti-abortion legislation as he often seemed. Early in his California governorship he had signed a permissive abortion bill that has resulted in more than a million abortions. Afterward, he inaccurately blamed this outcome on doctors, saying that they had deliberately misinterpreted the law. When Reagan ran for president, he won backing from pro-life forces by advocating a constitutional amendment that would have prohibited all abortions except when necessary to save the life of the mother. Reagan’s stand was partly a product of political calculation, as was his tactic after he was elected of addressing the annual pro-life rally held in Washington by telephone so that he would not be seen with the leaders of the movement on the evening news. While I do not doubt Reagan’s sincerity in advocating an anti-abortion amendment, he invested few political resources toward obtaining this goal.

Source: The Role of a Lifetime, by Lou Cannon, p. 812 Jul 2, 1991

Perhaps it is not quite fair to hold President Bush to a much higher standard. I admire and respect both President Reagan and President Bush but perhaps they are not quite as different as some would have us believe.

26 posted on 11/01/2003 10:09:11 AM PST by Wait4Truth (Anyone that doesn't support Bush over these morons hates America!)
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