1 posted on
10/29/2003 1:25:13 PM PST by
glorgau
To: glorgau
Now, if they can invent mosquito-pox, I'll be happy.
2 posted on
10/29/2003 1:31:15 PM PST by
biggerten
(Love you, Mom.)
To: glorgau; Destro; MarMema; Pubbie
911 justify creation of biological agent? How this different then program of many other nation who constantly condemned for WMD work?
To: glorgau
Sooner or later some terrorist will get their hands on this and our govt will whine and carry on. Too stupid.
4 posted on
10/29/2003 1:38:20 PM PST by
tkathy
(The islamofascists and the democrats are trying to destroy this country)
To: glorgau; swarthyguy
9-11 or not this is stupid. Unlike nuclear and chemical weapons, biological weapons can propagate themselves ....especially when you delve into the arena of viruses. Bacteriological weapons are easier to manage which is why they are preferred by those who would want a lethal attack that can be controlled. Viral bio-weapons are the domain of those who would opt for a super-virulent weapon that although harder to control than bacteriological agents is more potent.
And once you get into recombinant viral agents (such as what these guys are working on, or what the Soviets used to research in their lab-cities) you end up playing with what could easily be a global bane if the right (read wrong) set of circumstances came together.
I would not be concerned if they were playing with bacteria ....but genetically modified viruses worry me ....a lot. I have seen the effects of Marburg (a relative of the ebola virus that has similar effects on the human body ....read: bodily fluids oozing from every pore and black vomit ....black vomit is when a person sloughs off the internal lining of their stomach and gut and vomits it forth ......it is black hence the name).
The scientists should know that with the world's citeis being totally congested and transportation between continents a mere several hours that a viral plague would spread like wildfire. And chickens always go home to roost, meaning the US would face this woe as well.
6 posted on
10/29/2003 1:45:07 PM PST by
spetznaz
(Nuclear missiles: The ultimate Phallic symbol.)
To: glorgau
Ramshaw's team made its initial discovery while developing contraceptive vaccines for sterilising mice and rabbits without killing them. The researchers modified the mousepox virus by adding a gene for a natural immunosuppressant called IL-4, expecting this would boost antibody production. This was detailed in Demon in the Freezer ..... it may come down to just making an islampox and going for it.
7 posted on
10/29/2003 1:45:33 PM PST by
Centurion2000
(Virtue untested is innocence)
To: CathyRyan; Mother Abigail; Dog Gone; Petronski; per loin; riri; flutters; Judith Anne; ...
Biowarfare ping.
To: glorgau
It's really kind of funny when you think about it.
Everyone is worried about global warming, tobacco, aids, drugs and nukes.
In reality, it will probably be genetically engineered viruses that extinct mankind.
13 posted on
10/29/2003 1:56:19 PM PST by
mugs99
(Restore the Constitution)
To: glorgau
*Shaking head in disbelief*
Unless one's goal is to reduce world population to levels mandated by Kyoto protocols, I can't imagine any reason to genetically engineer virii that cannot be immunized against.
The sheer stupidity of this is absolutely staggering. Researchers have also recently exhumed corpses who died from the 1918 flu to weaponize, er, study it. The flimsy cover story is that these researchers are genuinely concerned that a bunch of third-world, towel-wearing terrorists will have the capacity to splice genes and create population slashing diseases, so they need to pre-emptively develop the same thing to guard agaist it...The likelihood of splicing a virus the same way someone else would to weaponize it seems ludicrously small.
Obviously the more likely scenario would be terrorists BUYING some of these things from a lab/researcher making the evil things in the first place.
To: glorgau
Anyone know anything about the reliability of this publication?
18 posted on
10/29/2003 2:01:40 PM PST by
mewzilla
To: All
36 posted on
10/29/2003 5:11:50 PM PST by
Bob J
(www.freerepublic.net www.radiofreerepublic.com...check them out!)
To: glorgau
The US didn't really do any such thing, you know. The
New Scientist is way out of touch with this field, evidently - this particular phenomenon has been going on for several years now. I posted this link to some two-year-old Aussie research in another thread, but it's worth a look:
HERE.
Interleukin 4 is a well-known immune system regulator and is widely researched for its effect in such diseases as asthma. I know of at least two therapeutic approaches for that disease under testing now for human application that involve IL-4.
This genie's long out of the bottle. The point is - why is the New Scientist suddenly making a new issue out of this? Why are they trying to blame the U.S. government for it?
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