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Apollo Moon Booster Still Flies as Detailed Model Rocket
space.com ^ | October 29, 2003 | Jim Banke

Posted on 10/29/2003 12:16:34 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. -- Thirty-three years after a mighty Saturn 5 rocket launched the first Apollo astronauts to land on the Moon, the mammoth booster still is flying high -- albeit on a much smaller scale.

Standing more than 62 inches (1.6 meters) tall and weighing about three pounds (1.4 kilograms) at launch, the most detailed reproduction of a Saturn 5 readily available today is 1/70th the size and 1/2,166,666th the weight of the original.

"It's just a matter of scale as far as the rockets are concerned. The laws of physics don't change," said Tim Van Milligan, president of Apogee Components of Colorado Springs, Colo., the company responsible for producing a model rocket that has hobbyists and space enthusiasts alike buzzing with excitement.

Other versions of the rocket exist, mostly as smaller plastic models or as toys. But this version is as faithful to the real thing as possible, designed to look as much like the Saturn 5 that launched Apollo 11 toward the Moon 33 years ago Tuesday as possible, Van Milligan said.

"Finally, someone has taken the time and given the attention to detail that these amazing vehicles deserve," said Wes Oleszewski, a 45-year-old self-described "child of the space program" who used to stay home from school while growing up in Michigan to watch the Saturn 5 launches on television.

"Using common sense, Apogee has created kits that can be flown or displayed or both. They have taken the time to research the actual vehicles and then used that information correctly in creating the kits," said Oleszewski, an author of nine books about Great Lakes shipwrecks who is now producing historical CDs on lifting body research and the Saturn family of rockets.

And what makes this particular Saturn 5 even more interesting is that it is the carefully crafted product of a real rocket scientist who once helped launch Delta 2 boosters.

"I was hired by McDonnell Douglas right out of college as a launch operations engineer. My job was to help see the rocket from the factory, help the engineers get it ready and keep track of things like the schedule and push paperwork," said Van Milligan, a 36-year-old graduate of Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University in Daytona Beach, Fla. After a few years, Van Milligan gave up a reasonably secure job at Cape Canaveral to design flying models instead.

"By the time I left we had launched about 35 Delta 2's and I was looking for a new challenge," Van Milligan said.

Moving west to Colorado, Van Milligan joined Estes Industries -- the aerospace giant of model rocketry -- where he soon designed the wildly successful Skywinder, a rocket that launches normally but instead of popping out a parachute for the "return to Earth" it deploys three blades and "helicopters" to a soft landing.

His reputation for designing quality rocket kits established, he soon struck out on his own and wound up the owner of Apogee Components. Responsible for paying all the bills, Van Milligan decided it was time to expand the product line and do so in a bold fashion with a highly detailed kit. The choice of rocket was a no-brainer.

"We needed a rocket that was easily recognized, something that everybody knew and loved. And the Saturn 5 was at the top of the list," Van Milligan said. "Only one rocket put man on the Moon and that was the Saturn 5."

Thirteen of the boosters flew from 1967 to 1973, all successfully. Ten flew with astronauts onboard, while three flew unmanned -- Apollo's 4 and 6 were test flights while the final Saturn 5 to fly was a modified two-stage version that carried the Skylab orbital workshop into Earth orbit.

Five of the smaller, two-stage Saturn 1B rockets were used on Apollo 7, the three Skylab expeditions and the 1975 Apollo-Soyuz Test Project. Many more Saturn 1 and 1Bs were flown on tests.

Enough components were built to fly three more Saturn 5's, but their flights were cancelled and the various stages all wound up in different places and assembled to present three full-sized historical exhibits in Florida, Texas and Alabama.

However, there's more to the Saturn 5 than "just" its place in the history books. After almost three decades since its last launch, the memory of the 363-foot-tall, three-stage monster booster still evokes a basic sense of wonder among those who were alive when they flew, said Brian Nicklas, a deputy reference chief at the archives of the National Air and Space Museum in Washington, D.C.

"The Apollo-Saturn combination looks like a rocket should when you go deep down in our memories," Nicklas said. "We can't help but have thoughts based on inept science fiction movies and tawdry novellas, but we do. Saturn may not have had huge fins, but it is sleek and shiny white, and it produced lots and lots of flames."

That same sense of awe turned almost religious for those who witnessed Saturn 5's power and glory in person.

"There is nothing else like it short of perhaps witnessing a thermonuclear blast from minimal distance," said Marc "Moose" Lavigne, who saw five Saturn 5 rockets take flight. "Graceful yet powerful. Magnificent and functional. Mesmerizing and beautiful. Yet, those words don't do it justice. It was simply unforgettable."

Lavigne, 47, a Boeing engineer who is often heard during launch coverage as the voice of Delta 2 telemetry, also is well-known for his skill at building and flying model rockets. He counts himself among those who are thrilled with this year's release of the Apogee Saturn 5, as well as the smaller Saturn 1B.

"The new Saturn models look simply outstanding and are a scale model builders delight," said Lavigne, who worked with Van Milligan on the Delta program at the Cape. "Knowing the designers who assisted Tim in the scale reproduction work, I wasn't surprised to see the outcome. It has details not found in any other kit."

Those details add to the complexity of building the model, as well as the cost. The Saturn 5 is a pricey $225 and the smaller Saturn 1B is $175.

"These new kits are part of the new breed of scale model, one where the producing company is going to the Nth degree to obtain scale realism," said Nicklas, who is himself an accomplished modeler with several aircraft on display in museum exhibits.

"Models like this are priced somewhat beyond the means of most kids, but adults with a bit of spare cash are eager to recapture the fun modeling times they had in the past. When this can be done with a subject like the Saturn 5, which they hold in such high regard, so much the better," Nicklas said.

For science teachers, scout leaders or parents, the investment in a kit such as Apogee's Saturn 5 -- or in any model rocket -- can pay big educational dividends for kids, said Patrick McCarthy, a manager of program control with CSR, Inc., at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station and long-time space modeler.

"Model rockets fly using the same physics and mathematics as real rockets. Kids can get interested in the fun of rockets and in the process, just happen to learn math and science skills," McCarthy said. "I've yet to meet a student that flies model rockets who has trouble finding a science fair topic -- they're made for each other."

In terms of the Saturn 5, model builders can learn more than just science, he said.

"Aside from the history of the vehicle, they'll learn an appreciation for the complex nature of a moon rocket. The same kinds of engineering that Wernher von Braun and NASA put into the real Saturn 5 went into the design and construction of the model Saturn," McCarthy said. "And Apogee's Saturn is just plain spectacular-looking, on display or in flight. It's way above the usual three-fins-and-a-nose-cone."

For more information about the kits, or to order the Saturn 5 or Saturn 1B models, see the Apogee Components web site.


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To: Flyer
built in repeat business!

It kept you mowing the lawn!

21 posted on 10/29/2003 12:56:23 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I was even a member of a "rocket club". We had meetings and everything.

Had the most fun building an Estes radio transmitter that flew, and a movie camera that got pictures of a "D" engine that blew up on launch. Cool.

But that was kid stuff. Check this web site out> www.tripoli.org (don't know how to post links):

22 posted on 10/29/2003 12:58:49 PM PST by narby
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To: narby
Tripoli
23 posted on 10/29/2003 1:02:49 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: adx
Darn shame it was before my time

I was only four. It's one of my earliest memories. I was sitting on my grandfather's lap, watching a black-and-white TV, and he told me never to forget this moment as long as I lived. I haven't, and won't.

-ccm

24 posted on 10/29/2003 1:07:54 PM PST by ccmay
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Stick around we're going back.

Good. Better than letting the Chicoms get their grubby paws on such an excellent bombardment (via mass driver) platform.

25 posted on 10/29/2003 1:07:57 PM PST by adx (Why's it called "tourist season" if you ain't allowed to shoot 'em?)
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To: adx
No we don't want to do that!

Bush May Announce Return To Moon At Kitty Hawk *** Washington - Oct 29, 2003 A report by Space Lift Washington and published by NASA Watch suggests a major new space policy initiative is under consideration and may be announced by US President George Bush at celebrations planned for the centenary of flight at Kitty Hawk in North Carolina December 17th.

As the full implications sinks in of funding three decades of a space program with no serious long term policy planning, Congress has become increasingly hesitant to offer NASA a blank check anymore.

From a variety of backgrounds and constituencies, pressure is being placed on Congress and the Bush Administration to get serious about space.

Arguing that the problem is not so much any perceived threats from China, many seasoned industry professionals are pointing to the public fiscal responsibilities of Congress to oversee NASA's spending, and the mounting pressure from the commercial sector that wants a new deal for space vendors that sees the cosy big aerospace dominance of the industry - and funding - broken up.

In among all this is the assumption that the US cannot end its human spaceflight program. And if the money is to be spent, then it should be spent with specific national technology and industry goals in place - including measures to encourage new suppliers to offer services at what is hoped will be lower prices.

According to Space Lift Washington, President Bush may announce at Kitty Hawk a return to manned lunar exploration but without any specific massive new funding, forcing NASA to get serious about what it wants to do with it considerable human spaceflight assets and decades of experience.


The idea of exploring space again has a glimmer of hope.

The initiative by Bush follows a year-long review of the future directions of the American space program in the immediate decades ahead.

Space Lift's Frank Sietzen quoting Washington sources writes that a central recommendation maybe the "resumption of manned lunar flights to develop advanced technologies that can support U.S. astronauts working beyond Earth orbit to not only the Moon, but eventually to near-Earth asteroids and Mars."

The Space Lift report further added that: "in an early phase of the meetings, manned Mars expeditions were considered too expensive and risky to adopt as a central goal for the civil space program"

However, Bush was said to being "urged to factor in future interplanetary manned flight capabilities as part of the justification for a return to the moon."***

26 posted on 10/29/2003 1:10:21 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I stood next to the Saturn 5 in Florida. You almost have to do that in order to appriciate just how huge that monster really is.
27 posted on 10/29/2003 1:12:18 PM PST by Orangedog (Soccer-Moms are the biggest threat to your freedoms and the republic !)
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To: Orangedog
It's massive.


The Earth as seen across the lunar north pole by the UVVIS camera, the large crater in the foreground is Plaskett. The Earth actually appeared about twice as far above the lunar horizon as shown. 1994 Clementine Lunar Orbiter Mission

28 posted on 10/29/2003 1:17:06 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Thanks for posting this- I have met Van Milligan, he's one of the best model kit designers in the business- the Estes Cato was a classic.
29 posted on 10/29/2003 1:23:50 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (Earth first! We can mine the other planets later.)
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To: Squawk 8888
Bump!
30 posted on 10/29/2003 1:30:13 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Good stuff. My brother and I built the Estes Industries Saturn V kit. We flew it successfully the first time using a three-engine cluster. That was impressive. We tried a second flight with a three-engine cluster and only one of the three engines ignited. It went about 50 feet up and crashed back down nose-first. I repaired the crumpled stage as best I could and then tried another flight using a 'D' series engine in an adapter (sold by Estes) mounted in the original cluster engine mount. For some reason, that engine assembly just blew through the rocket body when ignited. After that, the model was retired to shelf display. Alas...
31 posted on 10/29/2003 1:51:38 PM PST by chimera
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To: chimera
I never built any but one of my brothers and my husband were big time rocket builders. My brother would fly gecko lizards and Cincinatus flew cameras and eggs (to see if they'd come down unbroken).
32 posted on 10/29/2003 1:56:05 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
That was a big rocket!
Was there for the Apollo 17 launch. Wow! The night turned to sunset orange. And after about a minute could feel the heat blast as a warm 20mph wind. And we were 9 miles away!

What do you use to launch that baby? A “Z” engine.

Aaa the good old NASA days.

Not like now!

NASA gets away with blatant age discrimination AND Some reader feedback.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1007763/posts


33 posted on 10/29/2003 6:15:26 PM PST by quietolong
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