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1 posted on 10/28/2003 11:28:39 PM PST by ambrose
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2 posted on 10/28/2003 11:30:26 PM PST by ambrose
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When the Leftists scream about cops, in cases like this who can argue?
5 posted on 10/28/2003 11:49:55 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (Liberalism - Better Living through Histrionics ©)
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Police Gone Wild. This is craziness. Sure you approach with caution when you aren't certain about a situation, but then you give 'em hell verbally.
6 posted on 10/28/2003 11:49:59 PM PST by Ruth A.
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FYI all those who are interested;

Lorain is in OHIO, just west of Cleveland.

7 posted on 10/28/2003 11:55:39 PM PST by Drammach
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8 posted on 10/28/2003 11:57:16 PM PST by Djarum
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To: ambrose
Oh my.
10 posted on 10/29/2003 12:09:46 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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Police response understandable; the follow-up, arresting the child, citing and threatening the Mother are beyond the pale - or sadly, used to be - before Liberalism became the accepted consciousness of the day.

The question is, 'can we stop the insanity'?

As for poor Barney, he acted out of a kind of innocent ignorance; a naivete. His truth was he wanted to harm no-one.

This abusive action reminds me more of an 'Elian Gonzales' scenario. . .and the same for the kindergarteners using their fingers as guns . A mindless overkill. . .facilitated in this case by Zero Tolerance.

13 posted on 10/29/2003 12:19:44 AM PST by cricket
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Thomas, who his mother said has been diagnosed with attention deficit disorder, said he was frightened by the incident.

What rational human being would NOT be frightened by this?

I suppose if the kid had not dropped his toy the cop would have been justified putting a bullet through his nine-year-old noggin. Let's get real here. Yes, there are some replicas, pellet guns, etc., that are almost indistinguishable from the real thing.

I do not believe this was the case here. This was an obvious toy and the cop KNEW it was a toy, but went into his macho LAWMAN routine anyhow.

The questions then becomes, what in the heck was the kid arrested for? Having a toy gun is not, as far as I know, against the law. He dropped the thing when the cop told him to. Where is the justification for cuffing him and hauling him in?

14 posted on 10/29/2003 12:22:41 AM PST by Ronin (Qui docet discit!)
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Something needs to be done, but what??
15 posted on 10/29/2003 12:24:49 AM PST by Porterville (American First, Human being Second; liberal your derivative lifestyle will never be normalized.)
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When the "left" called the cops "pigs" in the 60's they were wrong, then.

This behavior is no longer isolated to "funny" stuff like this story, but includes "accidental" killings on drug busts, almost on a daily basis.

I think we all were asking for this all along.

PS: The original definition of SWAT was Special Weapons Attack Team.
22 posted on 10/29/2003 1:09:33 AM PST by ido_now
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This "police officer" needs to be fired and then varred from any occupation that may come into contact with minors. He's an absolute idiot. This should have been a very stern lecturing on why you do not remove or paint the orange or red pieces on toy guns and possibly even confiscating said toy gun long enough to paint the front orange or red.
23 posted on 10/29/2003 1:37:25 AM PST by zx2dragon (I could never again be an angel... Innocence, once lost, can never be regained.)
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An officer aimed his weapon at the boy's head, ordered him to the ground, handcuffed him and arrested him for juvenile delinquency by reason of inducing panic, according to the police report.

Scumbag cop ...... jerks like this make the rest of the police force look like crap.

Granted there are good ones but they are getting rare.

25 posted on 10/29/2003 2:27:05 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Virtue untested is innocence)
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''Don't you have anything better to do?''

Tell it to the judge lady ! Pay the clerk on the way out. /sarcasm

Sheesh. I'm thinking back to when I was a kid, we played "cops & robbers", "cowboys & indians", "army" or "war".

We actually had caps too!

We would have wound up on death row for those "crimes"!

28 posted on 10/29/2003 2:41:28 AM PST by csvset
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One can only admire the restraint exhibited by the police officer in not taking advantage of his opportunity to add a noch to his pistol grip Had he shot the boy he would have been awarded a paid vacation by his employer while the circumstances were investigated and would return refreshed to his duties to the congratulations of the Department for doint the right thing.
32 posted on 10/29/2003 2:59:25 AM PST by ThanhPhero (Cac nguoi nen tham Cam Duc dep..)
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This woman and her son need the help of a Second Amendment foundation to provide well funded legal services. Otherwise, she will be induced to plead guilty, get a permanent record, and her son will be put under social services oversight for reeducation.

Anone have any suggestions and how to get information to her?

37 posted on 10/29/2003 3:30:15 AM PST by Truth29
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This story reads like a plot for Reno 911; Comedy Central's parody of Fox's COPS.

I'll send Comedy Central a link to this story. Perhaps they can use it in a future episode.

39 posted on 10/29/2003 3:37:41 AM PST by csvset
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ping
40 posted on 10/29/2003 3:46:03 AM PST by Jonx6
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A passer-by who saw the boy playing just before noon with a gun -- described by police as a black plastic toy gun -- called police,

The problem lies not in our stars but in ourselves. The passer-by should be sent to a re-education center and all his/her property confiscated and given to the homeless.

41 posted on 10/29/2003 3:52:23 AM PST by scouse
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Has anyone seen that new show Reno 911. It's a hilarious spoof on "Cops". This sounds like a skit from that show.
42 posted on 10/29/2003 4:02:36 AM PST by grumple (I'm too old to worry about whether or not I'm a pain in your ass...)
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In a sane world, I would say the officer was way out of line. But the reality is that the mother is partly to blame for allowing her child to take a spray painted toy gun into a public place. She should have realized that someone could mistake it for a real one. I know this sounds nuts, but if had been my kid, I would have told him to leave it at home.
44 posted on 10/29/2003 4:25:07 AM PST by giotto
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