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My personal list of news and info on the California firestorms
| 10/27/2003
| ladypixel
Posted on 10/27/2003 6:23:56 PM PST by Ladypixel
Current Fires Active list for California, 6:19pm 10/27/03
(Updates welcome. Freepmail me or post 'em. I need all the help maintaining this list that I can get! Please, let's not discuss theories of how the fires started, or political debates of who should or should not be there... let's keep this thread as a fire-news only thread. Thank you!)
Most recent total update: 1,100 homes lost in the southland. 325,000 acres burned. 30,000 homes still threatened by the fire.
The list:
Hemet fire, Riverside county. As of last heard report, 6500 acres burned. May have joined with the Mountain fire (see below).
Simi Valley fire, Ventura county/northern Los Angeles county - Combined with original Val Verde/Santa Clarita fire. 120,000 acres. Six homes destroyed, eight damaged. Containment: 0 percent. Start: Oct. 25. Firefighters trying to save Ronald Reagan Presidential Library. Voluntary evacuations for Moorpark. Personnel: 599 firefighters. Cause: Arson. People in Box Canyon, Woolsey Canyon, Twin Lakes, Iverson Ranch, and other nearby regions have been evacuated. Evacuated region is north of Santa Suzanna Pass. Fire currently closest to Indian Oaks mobile home park.
Piru fire, Ventura county - 5,500 acres. Containment: 85 percent. Start: Oct. 23, west of Lake Piru in Ventura County. The fire in Los Padres National Forest is threatening the Sespe Wilderness and Sespe Condor sanctuary. There are no condors currently in the refuge. Voluntary evacuations in Piru and parts of Fillmore. Personnel: 780 firefighters. Cause: Under investigation.
Grand Prix fire, San Bernardino & Los Angeles counties - 40 mile fireline from LA to San Bernardino county (includes Old Waterman fire and Crestline fire) - Fire line is 40 miles long including the Old Waterman fire. 35,000 acres. 62 homes destroyed. Containment: 23 percent. Mandantory evacuations in Lytle Creek, Mt. Baldy, Rialto, and parts of Claremont, Upland, and other foothill communities of the San Gabriel Mtns. Personnel: 2,427 firefighters. Fire started on Foxborough Drive in the city of Fontana. Cause: Arson. Fire considered 100 percent contained in western region reaching from La Verne, CA to Rancho Cucamonga, CA. (Yay!)
Old Waterman fire, San Bernardino county - Size: 15,000 acres. 300 homes and ten commercial buildings destroyed. Deaths: 2. Containment: 5 percent. Start: Oct. 25 near San Bernardino National Forest. Evacuations in foothill areas of San Bernardino and mountain communities, including Crestline and Lake Arrowhead. Personnel: 917 firefighters. Cause: Arson.
Crestline fire, San Bernardino county - Burning next to Crestline and Lake Arrowhead currently, with evacuations in Big Bear, Running Springs, Blue Jay, and other close areas. Acreage unknown. Grand Prix fire is burning up the mountain to join with it, slowly but surely. Approx. 30 structures in Crestline burned. Mandantory evacuations in Lake Arrowhead, Rim Forest, Sky Forest, Running Springs, Arrowbear, Blue Jay, Crestline, Green Valley Springs, and Big Bear. Hospital in Lake Arrowhead has been evacuated as per NBC4 broadcast; patients have been taken to hospitals in Hesperia and other high-desert cities.
Valley Center fire, San Diego county - See Paradise Fire
San Clemente/Camp Pendleton fire, San Diego county - Freeper reports that it was just south of San Onofre power plant, a couple miles inland from the 5 freeway. Size: 4,800 acres. Containment: 75 percent. No structures burned, although the fire threatened homes in nearby De Luz. Started Oct. 21st on the base north of San Diego. Key facts: Authorities are downplaying early reports that fire was ignited by live ammo exercises on the base. Personnel: 1,000 firefighters. Cause: Under investigation.
Mountain fire, Riverside county - Now combo fire, including Rancho California fire: 6,000 acres. Six structures destroyed. Containment: 60 percent. Some burn injuries reported. Evacuations ordered for homes near Lake Skinner. Two civillian injuries. Personnel: 250 firefighters. Cause: Under investigation.
Riverside fire, Riverside county - Fire was located at last report (2:42pm) at Limonite Av/northbound I-15. Brush fire, no visibility on freeway at report time.
Malibu fire, Los Angeles/Ventura county region - FIRE OUT as of 10/26/03! Hooray!
Otay Lakes fire, San Diego county. Still active. Last update as of 3:56pm; location of fire was Otay Lakes Rd. at Wueste Rd. Closure on Otay Lakes Rd. at the 94. Fire jumped to northbound side of Procter Vally at Otay Lakes Rd. No other info available.
Cedar fire, San Diego county. Structures burned: 100 homes in Ramona, 150 in Scripps Ranch, 10 in Tierrasanta, 8 in Santee, 50-100 structures in Crest (east of El Cajon), many other structures. Deaths: 9. Injured: 2 firefighters, several civilians. Started Oct. 25 in eastern San Diego County, between Julian and Ramona. 200,000 acres burned. Personnel: More than 800 firefighters. Containment: 0 percent. Extends to Scripps Ranch, Poway, Miramar Marine Corps Air Station, portions of Santee, Lakeside, Ramona, El Cajon, San Carlos, Alpine, and Blossom Valley. Air traffic nationwide was disrupted when this fire forced the evacuation of a FAA control center at Miramar. Cause: Authorities believe a hunter set a signal fire when he got lost.
Dulzura fire, San Diego county - Also known as the Mine fire. 15,000 acres. Containment: 0 percent. Personnel: 300 firefighters. Started Oct. 26 in southern San Diego county. Fire crossed the border into Mexico, but no structures were threatened in Tijuana. Cause: Under investigation.
Paradise fire, San Diego county. Also known as Escondido fire. 15,000 acres. 57 homes and 103 outbuildings burned (no homes in Escondido area were lost), two deaths. Containment: 0 percent. Started Oct. 26 in Valley Center area near Interstate 15. Valley View Casino evacuated. Personnel: More than 500+ firefighters. Cause: Under investigation.
Poway fire: See Cedar fire.
Ramona fire: See Cedar fire.
DePortola (Temecula) fire, Riverside county (may be San Diego county?) - Started 2:16pm 10/27/03 near the I-15 & Hwy 76. Small brush fire. May be out.
Norco? fire, Los Angeles county - Started approx 2:58 pm, fire beneath the 71 freeway, 2 suspects with a red cass can seen running towards the local humane society. No additional details since 3:12pm. Fire estimated to be at SR71 just north of Mission Blvd. (May have to go personally check this one out.)
San Luis Obispo fire, county unknown - Reported at 9:03am. As of report at 1:03pm, fire was burning towards Resevoir Canyon in a SE direction. Fire near the 101 freeway; as per 3:04pm report, traffic delays up to 45 minutes due to fire.
Yucaipa fire, Riverside/San Bernardino county - Reported to be near state route 38 and Bryant. No other info available.
Antelope Valley fire, county unknown - Not much info on this fire, except a location (as of 3:46pm) of Avenue J at 90th St. East.
Long Beach fire, Los Angeles county - Not much info on this fire except location of 5602 N. Long Beach Blvd; may be a building fire in-city and not a wildfire.
Convoy fire, San Diego county - Reported start at 3:29pm, location westbound 52 at Convoy. Small brush fire. No other info available.
Redding fire, San Bernardino county - Reported as of 5:52pm, location Dersch Rd. at Parkville Rd in Redding. No additional info available.
Point Reyes fire (Northern California) - Reported as of 3:46pm. A ditch was on fire along Petaluma Rd. at Nicasio Valley Rd. 1 lane of traffic shut down. No further information available.
OTHER: Reports of a P2V Firefighting plane, crashed 7.4 miles SSW of Big Bear Dam. Supposedly ignited a fire, no survivors expected. Crash was described as in "pieces".
JUST IN: Report of a transformer fire in San Bernardino, location Alto Dr. at Mesa Ct. No further info avail.
TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; cedarfire; crestline; fire; lakearrowhead; losangeles; poway; riverside; sanbernardino; sandiego; scrippsfire; simivalley; wildfires
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To: spectr17
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posted on
10/27/2003 7:40:36 PM PST
by
Ladypixel
(Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
To: Ladypixel
Good list of California television stations at
http://newslink.org/catele.html. KFI reporting that the Old Waterman fire is now considered 5 percent contained.
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posted on
10/27/2003 7:45:44 PM PST
by
Ladypixel
(Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
To: Ladypixel
43
posted on
10/27/2003 7:48:37 PM PST
by
restornu
KFI 640 reporting that the fire near Lake Arrowhead crossed the 18 freeway at the old Cliffhanger restaurant.
Local Firestorm relief phone numbers for San Diego County: 619-237-6309 or 619-542-7400
Incident: 0014 Type: Structure or Grass Fire
Location: ALPINE
Zoom Map: Click Here
Info as of: 10/27/2003 7:44:15 PM
ADDITIONAL DETAILS
7:25PM - 86C; OLD 80 JWO SR79 - FIRE IS JWO 79 AND NORTH OF WB LANES
Incident: 0021 Type: Structure or Grass Fire
Location: SB 15 JSO MIRA MESA (SD area)
Zoom Map: 1209 5F
Info as of: 10/27/2003 7:45:03 PM
ADDITIONAL DETAILS
7:38PM - CT HQ ADV OF OPENINGS
7:33PM - NB 163 TO EB 52 OPEN
7:29PM - R12;GET WORD TO MEDIA THAT THIS RD WILL BE CLOSED SANTO AT 52 ,, LOTS OF PEOPLE TRYING TO GET THRU
7:27PM - 1039 PD
7:27PM - 1039 PD
7:24PM - PLS NOTIFY PD, PEOPLE ARE PASSING SANTO AND THEY ARE TRYING TO GO W/WAY FRM SANTO OR SANTO TO EB
7:22PM - R12; BOTH 15 TO 52 ARE OPEN
7:10PM - CT SET UP A CLOSURE,, CONFIRM THIS IS ON BOTH ONR TO EB/WB GOING THRU THE CLOSURE
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posted on
10/27/2003 7:50:48 PM PST
by
Ladypixel
(Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
From
http://www.sannet.gov/newsflash/firealert.shtml City of San Diego Emergency Fire Information
Last updated October 27, 2003, 7:30 p.m.
URGENT! In order to maintain enough water pressure to fight fires, residents MUST CONTINUE to conserve water. Use only what is absolutely necessary for health, cooking or for fire suppression. This is an urgent situation and we need the cooperation of all City of San Diego residents and businesses.
A major fire in the City of San Diego is threatening public safety and property in the Scripps Ranch community.
Please stay indoors and keep your windows shut. Curtail strenuous activities and breathe through a damp cloth if needed. Stay off the roads. Please stay tuned to local television or radio stations for immediate updates. If you are asked to evacuate, please do so immediately.
State Fire Map
To view a map of statewide fire activity created from satellite imagery, please click on the web link listed below.
http://activefiremaps.fs.fed.us/archive/cgb2003300_0700.jpg EVACUATION CENTERS/HOTLINE
The evacuated area is primarily in Scripps Ranch. Residents of Tierrasanta and San Carlos have been cleared to return to their homes. Only residents with proof of residency in those communities will be allowed in. The San Diego Fire Department will make the determination about when it is safe for residents to return to Scripps Ranch. Police and fire officials will not allow residents to return to their homes until they are confident that it is safe to do so.
There are two official Red Cross evacuation centers in the City of San Diego. They are:
Balboa Park Activity Center, 2145 Park Blvd in Balboa Park
Mira Mesa High School, 10510 Reagan Road in Mira Mesa
*** Qualcomm Stadium is NOT an official Red Cross evacuation center. Evacuees are asked to go to one of the above listed locations only.
Transit Services
The San Diego bus and trolley system is running normal service today in light of the area's fire emergency. Some bus routes are being detoured due to fire-related road closures. A list of transit detours is available on the transit website at www.sdcommute.com and also at transitosandiego.com.
The Regional Telephone Information Office is also open at 1-800-COMMUTE or 619-233-3004.
YMCA
All YMCAs in San Diego County are open with the exception of the Cameron Family YMCA in Santee. The Cameron Family YMCA is not open because of a power outage.
Any victims, volunteers, rescue workers or members of the media in need of a shower or place to freshen up can go to any one of the YMCAs throughout San Diego County.
For the location of the YMCA near you, please consult your yellow pages or visit www.YMCA.org or call (858) 292-4034.
Donations
No more donations of food or other items can be handled at the Balboa Park Activity Center. Anyone with donations is asked to take them to the St. Vincent de Paul store at 16th and Market.
Community Access Phone System
The City's Community Access Phone System (CAPS) has been activated at 619-570-1070. The CAPS line is for people to call for information about evacuation centers and other general information about the current status of the situation. The people who answer the phones will not have information about specific individuals and where they might be or whether specific homes/adresses have been burned.
INFORMATION ABOUT PUBLIC SERVICES FOR THE WEEK OF OCT. 27, 2003
City Council meeting has been cancelled until further notice.
Building inspections will be available Tuesday for construction projects. Inspections will more than likely take place within 48 hours instead of the usual 24 hours.
The Development Services Permit Center and Inspection Offices at Ridgehaven will both be open on Tuesday.
Trash pickup will be delayed by one day the entire week (holiday schedule).
All City facilities will be closed, including, but not limited to the following:
City Council Offices
Community Service Centers
Inspection Field Office at Ridgehaven
Libraries
Permit Center
Planning Department
Recreation centers
Swimming pools
Torrey Pines and Balboa golf courses
INFORMATION FOR ALL CITY EMPLOYEES
All non-essential City of San Diego employees should NOT report to work, but should check with their supervisors on Tuesday morning.
Police Department
City of San Diego Police Department patrol officers who are responding to a call-back should follow these instructions:
If you live north of Northeastern Division, report to Northeastern Division.
If you live south of Highway 52, respond to your normal area station or to Traffic Division on Aero Road.
Water Department
All Water Operations personnel SHOULD report to work as scheduled.
American Red Cross
The American Red Cross advises that persons wishing to donate money to the fire disaster relief fund can call 1-800-HELPNOW or log on to their web site at www.sdarc.org/disaster. The Red Cross is not set up to accept donations of food. Volunteers are urgently needed. If you are able to volunteer, contact the Red Cross at the listed phone number.
Utilities
SDG&E is asking citizens to conserve energy any way they can, unless it is absolutely necessary for the elderly, the young, or those impacted by smoke. If air conditioners must be used for these reasons, set the temperature to a higher setting than normal. Further information is available at www.sdge.com. Also, to ensure continued water pressure in all areas, citizens are asked to conserve waster unless it is needed for fire suppression, cooking or health reasons. Businesses and residents are encouraged to shut down their irrigation systems during this emergency.
SDG&E is asking the public NOT to call 9-1-1 to report downed power lines or no electricity. The number to call is: 1-800-411-SDGE.
San Diego Unified School District Update
All San Diego City Schools will be closed Tuesday, October 28. This decision was made in part because of unhealthy air quality for students. There are no 6 to 6 programs.
Emergency Day care is available at the following middle schools:
Challenger Middle
Dana Middle
Keiller Middle
Kroc Middle
Marston Middle
Muirlands Middle
Pacific Beach Middle
Roosevelt Middle
Standley Middle
Taft Middle
The school district has established a hotline (619) 725-5578 for any questions. The Hotline is open until further notice.
If your child attends a parochial school or district outside the City of San Diego, please check with that school or district's administration offices.
EMERGENCY PET PREPAREDNESS
Friends of County Animal Shelters (FOCAS) is asking all pet owners who may be affected by the fire to put together a pet emergency kit in case of evacuation. For more information please call FOCAS voice mail at 619-685-3536 and a FOCAS volunteer will return your call.
Current City of San Diego Road Closures
State Route 52 between I-15 and State Route 125 is still closed.
For more information, go to www.chp.ca.gov.
Federal, State and County Courts
All courts will be closed on Tuesday.
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posted on
10/27/2003 8:00:37 PM PST
by
Ladypixel
(Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
To: BJungNan
Not with a PDF file, and they are fairly large, causing the slow to open. Also you need to have an adobe acrobat reader to open them. I'll look and see what else I can find.
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posted on
10/27/2003 8:02:10 PM PST
by
united1000
("Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves." Lincoln)
Comment #47 Removed by Moderator
Incident: 1697 Type: Report of Fire
Location: EB SR210 AT MOUNTAIN AV (Rancho Cucamonga area)
Zoom Map: 571 5J Info as of: 10/27/2003 7:56:06 PM
ADDITIONAL DETAILS
7:53PM - 1039 FD ENRT
7:51PM - POWER POLE ON FIRE
Update on Fire near UPLAND:
Incident: 2938 Type: Structure or Grass Fire
Location: 16TH JWO BENSON
Zoom Map: Click Here
Info as of: 10/27/2003 7:57:35 PM
ADDITIONAL DETAILS
7:54PM - UNIT IS 1023 - NEW 1020, FIRE IS NORTH OF THE FWY (NOT SOUTH OF), JUST EAST OF THE BASELINE EXIT, ABOUT 1000 FT NORTH OF THE FRWY, STILL IN UPLAND
7:44PM - 1039 UPLAND FD
7:43PM - PLZ ROLL UPLAND FIRE FOR TELEPHONE POLE ON FIRE IN FIELD
RESPONDING OFFICERS STATUS
7:43PM - CHP Unit On Scene
Border Communications Center
Number of Incidents: 17 Last Updated at: 10/27/2003 7:58:45 PM
No. Time Type Location Area
1034 7:57PM Structure or Grass Fire BOCC Border Comm Center
ADDITIONAL DETAILS
7:57PM - RP ADV SMOKE
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posted on
10/27/2003 8:07:40 PM PST
by
Ladypixel
(Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
To: united1000
mail
49
posted on
10/27/2003 8:08:11 PM PST
by
Brad’s Gramma
(Logan's Home! Logan's Home! Logan's Home! Logan's Home! Logan's Home!)
To: doug from upland
Ping to #48
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posted on
10/27/2003 8:09:49 PM PST
by
Brad’s Gramma
(Logan's Home! Logan's Home! Logan's Home! Logan's Home! Logan's Home!)
San Diego evacuation information from KFMB-TV in San Diego:
(10-27-2003) - UPDATED - 7:25 p.m. Authorities have begun allowing residents of the East County neighborhood of San Diego Country Estates, east of Ramona, to return to their homes. They will be re-entering via Old Julian Highway.
UPDATED - 5 p.m. The San Diego Sheriff's Department says residents are currently being evacuated from parts of Julian, Ramona, and the Rincon Indian Reservation.
Areas of Julian: Harrison Park, Pine Hills and North Peak
Other areas include:
Griffith Rd & Keys Rd. in Ramona
Rancho Jamul Estates
Johnson Lake & Rocoso - Eucalyptus Hills
Guejito and Lake Wohlford
Oakdale
Rincon Reservation
13900 block of Woods Valley Rd
The northeast area of Ramona
Only residents will be allowed into the recently opened streets in the Scripps Ranch area. The streets listed in the area South and East of Pomerado Road will remain closed and residents will not be allowed back until deemed safe by the San Diego Fire Department.
Remaining closed indefinitely for safety reasons is the area South and East of Pomerado Road, Avenida Magnifica, Scripps Trails, Oakbend Drive, Elderwood Road and South of Spring Canyon Road.
UPDATED - 3:26 p.m.The San Diego Fire Department says residents evacuated from
Tierrasanta and San Carlos may return to their homes, according to police. Only those with proof of residency will be allowed into the areas.
UPDATED – 11:53 a.m. The sheriff's department has begun mandatory evacuations in the area of Paradise Mountain and Hellhole Canyon in the Valley Center Area.
Authorities advise residents in these neighborhoods not to wait for a sheriff's unit to make an announcement, please leave the area immediately.
The evacuation center for valley center is St. Patrick's Catholic Church, 450 S Stagecoach Lane in Fallbrook.
UPDATED - 11:41 a.m.
The Escondido Fire Department has ordered it necessary to evacuate of the following streets that surround the Eagle Crest Golf Club (area on the south east portion of the City of Escondido accessed by Cloverdale Rd):
Holly Oak Pl, Rosewood Lane
Mesa Oak Pl, Wild Oak Lane
Ranch View Place
The emergency shelter for this incident is the Escondido High School (1500 block of N. Broadway) and the phone number is 760-291-4034.
Officers from EPD are responding to the above areas and advising residents to leave.
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posted on
10/27/2003 8:10:17 PM PST
by
Ladypixel
(Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
Comment #52 Removed by Moderator
To: BJungNan
Go to this yahoo map link. You can zoom in and move in different directions. Move to the east toward Lake Gregory, which is where the fire is into the Highlands area, I believe.
You can also go to mapquest.
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posted on
10/27/2003 8:11:29 PM PST
by
united1000
("Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves." Lincoln)
Comment #54 Removed by Moderator
According to KCAL 9, flames still visible in the hills above Devore. However, the flames are burning upward and away from the residential areas.
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posted on
10/27/2003 8:15:47 PM PST
by
Ladypixel
(Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
Comment #56 Removed by Moderator
Simi Valley fire jumps 118 freeway (courtesy
abc7.com)
SANTA CLARITA — The Simi Valley fire which has already blackened 90 thousand+ acres has now jumped the 118 freeway.
Fire officials say the fire is now heading south towards Bell Canyon, a populated residential area.
Flames are threatening a tony enclave of suburban homes, about 35 miles north of Los Angeles.
Meanwhile, Simi Valley officials have closed schools in the city.
Earlier, in San Bernardino County, the 'Old Fire' jumped the 18 freeway in the Crestline area, destroying 25 new homes.
That fire has already destroyed more than 400 homes.
Authorities are seeking two men they say may have started one of the two San Bernardino fires.
Officials say one man was seen Saturday morning throwing something into roadside brush that caught fire. They say he and a companion then fled in a van.
Los Angeles, San Bernardino, San Diego and Ventura counties are under a state of emergency.
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posted on
10/27/2003 8:18:48 PM PST
by
Ladypixel
(Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
Several communities in the San Bernardino mountains may experience a loss of power from SCE due to high winds, according to
abc7.com. SCE says they may turn off the power as a safety measure to prevent brush fires from being ignited by downed lines - communities include Lake Arrowhead, Crestline, Idyllwild and Running Springs.
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posted on
10/27/2003 8:20:19 PM PST
by
Ladypixel
(Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
KFI reporting that Porter Ranch residents are now under evacuation conditions due to the Simi Valley fire.
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posted on
10/27/2003 8:21:05 PM PST
by
Ladypixel
(Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
Scanner reports from other thread (courtesy of spectr17, thank you for listening to the scanners!!):
FF at Plunge Creek near Highland by water tank are firing backfires
FF stuck in dozer powder, digging out since she won't go no mo, even with 4wd
Fire Stategy meeting underway for tonight/tommorrow
Edison clearing downed power lines on hwy 330 below Lake Arrowhead, could be delays up that route for FFs
New fire report from other thread, as posted by BurbankKarl:
New Fire inside San Fernando Valley....
858.4375
sesnon and neon way
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posted on
10/27/2003 8:33:37 PM PST
by
Ladypixel
(Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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