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Baggage screeners push to unionize
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| 10/27/03
| Brock N. Meeks
Posted on 10/27/2003 3:27:59 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts
Union leaders are pushing the Bush administration to allow some 50,000 federal airport baggage and passenger screeners the right to union representation, saying theyll take their case to the U.S. Supreme Court if necessary.
The push for collective-bargaining rights comes as the Transportation Security Administration has cut some 6,000 screener jobs at airports nationwide in an effort to get its budget under control, and near the one-year anniversary of the deadline to have a federal screener workforce in place.
Ironically, the federal jobs themselves, created by congressional mandate in the aftermath of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, could be in jeopardy. In November 2004, owing to federal legislation, airports will have the right to choose whether they want to keep the federalized screener workforce or return to private hiring.
The American Federation of Government Employees, the union that is seeking to represent the TSA screeners, released a poll Monday saying that 69 percent of those surveyed feel safer knowing that the federal government has a trained professional workforce protecting our airports.
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KEYWORDS: airports; baggage; federalemployees; labor; organize; screeners; tsa; unions
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Such an oppressed and overworked, underpaid group those baggage screeners. I can see why they'd want to unionize.
And since when does getting professional training have anything to do with being part of a union?
Hey George, just make sure they aren't given the right to strike just like PATCO or they'll find themselves out of jobs...just like PATCO.
To: Bloody Sam Roberts
This was just a matter of time.
To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Unionizing 50,000 baggage handlers would be a disaster, more than federalizing them, which was a big enough mistake to begin with.
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posted on
10/27/2003 3:36:00 PM PST
by
caisson71
To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Ah yes, union baggage screeners - only allowed to screen x-amount of bags per hour with an x-amount limit per day, no matter how many passengers show up...
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posted on
10/27/2003 3:40:45 PM PST
by
trebb
To: trebb
Yep. I think I'll take the union-driven bus from now on. Safer, and faster...and I won't have to undress in front of strangers.
To: Arizona Pard
Obviously, you don't live in Los Angeles County where the union driven buses are out on strike. Just picture when the union baggage screeners go out on strike.
The only good thing about the fires in So Cal is that it has taken everyone's mind off of the bus drivers' and the supermarket workers' strikes. Right now, nobody give a damn weather they can take a bus to work or buy groceries. All we care about is whether we have a house to come home to.
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posted on
10/27/2003 3:47:10 PM PST
by
CdMGuy
To: Bloody Sam Roberts
How's about they start doing thier job?
These people work for us -- we pay them.
I don't want pay some union rat with my taxes.
I already pay for the post office.
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posted on
10/27/2003 3:47:37 PM PST
by
baltodog
(I'm Polish. I'm left-handed. I'm a drummer. I demand reparations.)
To: Arizona Pard
TSA = Thousands Standing Around
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posted on
10/27/2003 3:48:25 PM PST
by
RiflemanSharpe
(An American for a more socially and fiscally conservation America!)
To: Bloody Sam Roberts
These SOBs lost some of my stuff during a recent trip. I have a blue tag that my bag was 'selected' for search, and it arrived with items missing.
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posted on
10/27/2003 3:50:29 PM PST
by
ilgipper
To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Oh yeah...this is going to be a BIG help.
.../sarcasm/disbelief off
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posted on
10/27/2003 3:55:40 PM PST
by
Khurkris
(Scottish/HillBilly - Revenge is an Art Form for us. Ranger On...)
To: Bloody Sam Roberts
WASHINGTON, Oct. 27 Union leaders are pushing the Bush administration to allow some 50,000 federal airport baggage and passenger screeners the right to collective bargaining under union representation, saying theyll take their case to the U.S. Supreme Court if necessary.
THE PUSH FOR collective-bargaining rights comes as the Transportation Security Administration has cut some 6,000 screener jobs at airports nationwide in an effort to get its budget under control, and near the one-year anniversary of the deadline to have a federal screener workforce in place.
Ironically, the federal jobs themselves, created by congressional mandate in the aftermath of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, could be in jeopardy. In November 2004, owing to federal legislation, airports will have the right to choose whether they want to keep the federalized screener workforce or return to private hiring.
The American Federation of Government Employees, the union that is seeking to represent the TSA screeners in collective bargaining negotiations, released a poll Monday saying that 69 percent of those surveyed feel safer knowing that the federal government has a trained professional workforce protecting our airports.
POLL CAME BEFORE BREECH
The October poll, however, was taken before last weeks widely publicized security breech in which a student was able to smuggle box-cutters and other objects that mimicked dangerous materials onto two Southwest Airlines jets.
Union President John Gage said he didnt have any data to comment on whether the recent security breech would put a dent in the publics confidence as related in the polling numbers.
In March, screeners from around the country met in Washington to announce they would affiliate with AFGE despite advance word from TSA Administrator James Loy that he would not formally bargain or recognize any employee union.
Mandatory collective bargaining is not compatible with the flexibility required to wage the war against terrorism, Loy said in January when he signed the order precluding collective-bargaining arrangements. That can mean changes in work assignments and other conditions of employment that are not compatible with the duty to bargain with labor unions.
Were going to fight this, Gage said during a news conference Monday, well go to the Supreme Court if we have to because we believe its a constitutional issue for American workers to be able to form unions. The AFGE case is currently in the U.S. Appeals Court.
The ban on collective bargaining negotiations, however, doesnt preclude TSAs screeners from joining a union.
In a grievance or any matter in which a screener may have a representative, the screener can select the representative of their choice, including someone from the union, the TSA said in an e-mail response. That person would be representing only the screener not speaking for any other screeners or group of screeners.
PRIVATIZATION CALL
Every time theres a security breach it seems that [some members of Congress] raise their heads and start arguing that the screeners should become privatized, Gage said. We heard a lot of that last week.
Currently the TSA is evaluating privatization pilot programs at five airports Kansas City, Mo.; San Francisco; Rochester, N.Y.; Tupelo, Miss.; and Jackson Hole, Wy. to evaluate security procedures and practices. Next year, airports can opt out of using the federalized screener workforce and go with contracted screeners provided by TSA.
Security at U.S. airports should remain the responsibility of federal employees, said Adam Goldberg, policy analyst for Consumers Union. The independent organization was an early supporter of a federalized screener workforce. This critical function should not again be subject to a patchwork system of contractors, Goldberg said.
During a congressional hearing last week, Loy told members of the House aviation subcommittee that as many as 24 airports could opt for contract screeners, though he had no estimate of how many of those might actually chose private screeners over the federal force.
MANY COMPLAINTS
TSA screeners have complained long and loud about their working conditions, from the lack of ventilation to pump jet fumes out of cramped baggage screening quarters, to sexual harassment, to retaliation for speaking out about security problems.
The stress can be overwhelming. Every supervisory order seems to be prefaced with, Youll be fired if you dont do it. STACY BODTMANN TSA passenger screener
The stress can be overwhelming, said Stacy Bodtmann, a passenger screener at Newark International Airport. Every supervisory order seems to be prefaced with, Youll be fired if you dont do it.
Bodtmann, a self-styled union activist, also complained of forced overtime when at the end of your shift you suddenly find out that youre needed for another three hours. Bodtmann said refusing the extra hours isnt an option. If you dont work the overtime, theres the proverbial threat of termination.
The TSA has an ombudsman office to handle such complaints. But its a joke, Bodtmann said. Its rare to actually get a human on the phone, Bodtmann said, and if you do leave a number, calls never get returned.
TSA is candid in admitting that errors were made as the federal screener workforce ramped up at a pace of 5,000 new hires per week. Given these numbers, TSA admits that there were glitches including pay and health insurance deductions, the agency said in an e-mail response and noted that any remaining problems are being addressed on a case-by-case basis.
Changing national security threat levels and daily intelligence briefings demands the ability to change scheduling, as needed, TSA said, declining to detail how and when such changes are made.
Issues of sexual harassment, injuries on the job and threats are issues that TSA takes seriously. We are working individual cases for resolution and also ensuring that these issues are not systemic, the agency said.
TSA denied the assertion that its ombudsman is non-responsive, saying the office has helped hundreds of employees resolve problems. Not every issue that we address has a solution or an outcome that is satisfactory to all parties, the TSA said.
Despite such assurances by TSA officials, union officials claim that working conditions are dreadful and that screeners are fleeing their jobs, leaving an already strained workforce shorthanded.
But Loy, during last weeks congressional hearing, said that pre-9/11 turnover for private company screeners was up to 400 percent with the average time in the job of about 4.5 months. By comparison, Loy said, the TSA screeners have seen only a 13.6 percent turnover rate.
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posted on
10/27/2003 4:01:07 PM PST
by
hattend
(no need to excerpt MSNBC)
To: ilgipper
These SOBs lost some of my stuff during a recent trip. I have a blue tag that my bag was 'selected' for search, and it arrived with items missing. They aren't missing. A TSA goon knows exactly where your stuff is.
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posted on
10/27/2003 4:02:40 PM PST
by
hattend
To: CdMGuy
Just picture when the union baggage screeners go out on strike. As workers with a national security classification, they do not, and will not, have the right to strike. Most of them do however, want some sort of means to settle and negotiate differences.
To: hattend
Just what we need. Postal worker-types screening our belongings.
High shcool droputs with a GED on our nickle searching your underwear.
Crying racism, sexual harassment, carpel tunnel, etc.
I hope ALL airlines opt out.
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posted on
10/27/2003 4:33:32 PM PST
by
MonroeDNA
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To: hattend
"TSA screeners have complained long and loud about their working conditions, from the lack of ventilation to pump jet fumes out of cramped baggage screening quarters, to sexual harassment, to retaliation for speaking out about security problems."
Some people are giving grief to the college kid who smuggled the clay and box cutters aboard two planes as a demonstration - saying "Why didn't he just tell somebody?" - when people (at least in theory) doing the JOB can't open their mouths about that kind of thing without being hassled.
I saw the attitude from 'the brass' during my 21 years on active duty in the Navy - bureaucracies do not like peons making suggestions, period.
Government bureaucracy and unionist greed and apathy - what a great freaking combination. Labor unions are the favored resort of those who have no faith in their own ability to get and keep a good job. These marginally...um, mentally challenged people keeping our airports safe were bound to gravitate to the unions eventually.
To: RiflemanSharpe
They recently advertised for employees at the Bradford PA
airport. Starting pay? $35,000.
If you've ever been to this airport, you know how ridiculous this is.
Comment #17 Removed by Moderator
To: macrahanish #1
Holy crap! $35K? I see my post retirement job...
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posted on
10/27/2003 5:41:31 PM PST
by
hattend
To: Tom Bombadil
I hope someone reminds these clymers of Ronald Reagan and the action he took against the air traffic control people who went out on strike.
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posted on
10/27/2003 5:48:49 PM PST
by
gaspar
To: hattend
No need to excerpt MSNBC?
I beg to differ. This is the message that greets you when you create a post with a URL from MSNBC:
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Thanks for the effort though. It's the thought that counts.
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posted on
10/27/2003 6:16:18 PM PST
by
Bloody Sam Roberts
(Politics is the art of choosing between the disastrous and the unpalatable.)
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