However true that is, OWK has a strong point. He notes the very reason that made me look at LF: this place became home to rah-rah, ass-kissing sheep unwilling or unable to look deeper than the ever-vanishing differences the R and D machines spend their time and our money arguing about (to say nothing of the rabid attack dogs poised to spring on ME threads).
Say what you like about the assorted scum you'll find at LF, at least they've got the balls to say what they think without a moderator at the draw.
and they have the ping list to prove it.
But, the moderator has a philosophy of not banning posters, he has stuck to that philosophy, to date one person has been banned for stalking another poster off line.
Its not everyone's cup of tea, and there days where I can't stand to see of the folk there, but it truly is a free site, and all opinions and viewpoints are allowed there, as well as challenges to anyone's viewpoint.