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To: JohnGalt
So by exercising property rights on his own forum, he doesn't think he is a libertarian anymore?...What is down is up, and what is up is down in Mssr. Poe's world, or lets cut to the chase: Mssr. Poe does not know the first thing about liberty.

I'm don't see where he's saying that at all, simply commenting on the evolution of a "libertarian" forum, which, imo, is anarchist at best, a fascist pseudo hate site at worst. Personally I don't associate them with libertarianism at all.

11 posted on 10/27/2003 12:05:32 PM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson
Poe is saying that he no longer considers himself a libertarian, I surmise because 'libertarian forums' don't work because they don't keep out bad ideas, and then gives a case in point being LF and the presence of particularly 'Nazi trolls' as opposed to say statist or leftwing liberals trolls.

A rightwing libertarian would rather explore the praxeology of libertarian ideas and the unfettered marketplace of ideas on the web and talk about his own experience exercising property rights to keep out unwanted elements.

Now, I don't care for the pronouncements on the joy of killing A-rabs or the French, the bombing of civilians or the folks on this site (Brian S and Yonif) who believe that the United States is struck by a natural disaster when the US slights Israel. I don't advocate banning anybody I just want to engage these people in the marketplace of ideas using a variety of tactics.

To me that is the "fascist pseudo hate site" stuff you speak of because nobody on your side of the ideological divide calls them on it.
63 posted on 10/27/2003 12:48:17 PM PST by JohnGalt (Attention Pseudocons: Wilsonianrepublic.com is still available)
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To: SJackson
I don't see where he's saying that at all, simply commenting on the evolution of a "libertarian" forum, which, imo, is anarchist at best, a fascist pseudo hate site at worst. Personally I don't associate them with libertarianism at all.

The concept of libertarianism has been hijacked by anti-semites who use it as cover. I would not judge the entire philosophy by the cranks who have adopted it.

93 posted on 10/27/2003 1:18:00 PM PST by veronica ("I just realised I have a perfect part for you in "Terminator 4"....)
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