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'Liberal' sparks Hawaiian-only firestorm (This isn't just a Hawaiian issue)
Honolulu Advertiser ^ | October 27, 2003 | David Waite

Posted on 10/27/2003 10:35:21 AM PST by GrandmaPatriot

Edited on 05/07/2004 6:18:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Sam's Army
Not nearly enough so the federalis can count on continued looting of New England.
21 posted on 10/28/2003 6:30:16 AM PST by JohnGalt (Attention Pseudocons: Wilsonianrepublic.com is still available)
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To: JohnGalt
I know, it can't be super popular up ther in Kennedy-land. Have you at least had the opportunity to do any sort of lobbying or legal exercises in regards to your goal though?
22 posted on 10/28/2003 6:33:56 AM PST by Sam's Army
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To: Sam's Army
I overplayed the organized part for effect. Nothing more than e-mail distribution list but such things begin this way.

Politics is a waste of time if you believe the insitutions are corrupt. We are as much the sons of Patrick Henry as we are of Sam Adams in that sense. Thus we must begin prior to the insitutions and start with a working definition of what it means to be a New Englander.

The website is not quite ready for prime time but if your mildly intrigued:
The 1814 Society

23 posted on 10/28/2003 6:40:28 AM PST by JohnGalt (Attention Pseudocons: Wilsonianrepublic.com is still available)
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To: JohnGalt
Thank you (the links have made me rather thirsty on this early Tuesday morn...)
24 posted on 10/28/2003 6:59:25 AM PST by Sam's Army
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To: Sam's Army
And if you feel guilt in not curing that thirst, blame that other export of New England, puritanicalism...

Gosh, now I am thirsty.
25 posted on 10/28/2003 7:22:43 AM PST by JohnGalt (Attention Pseudocons: Wilsonianrepublic.com is still available)
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To: JohnGalt
I'll be slamming a six at my desk here at work after I run to the store and just use the Temperance Party as my scapegoat.
26 posted on 10/28/2003 7:29:23 AM PST by Sam's Army
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To: JohnGalt
LOL! Well, I meant to be facetious. But really, every state should have one. Especially appropos in Hawaii which is the only state to have been a sovereign monarchy overthrown by (foreign) American businessmen supported by the US Navy. The Kingdom of Hawaii was literally stolen from the rightful government of the Hawaiian people (The land was, however, purchased fair and square so the argument that the haoles stole the land is incorrect).
27 posted on 10/28/2003 11:55:20 AM PST by Chuckster ("If honor were profitable, everyone would be honorable" Sir Thomoas More)
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To: Chuckster
Oh I realize, but from you post I thought you might think I was being malicious towards my good libertarian conservative friends of Hawaii, but really I was trying to come up with a political solution beyond going to the courts which will solve nothing.

28 posted on 10/28/2003 12:03:01 PM PST by JohnGalt (Attention Pseudocons: Wilsonianrepublic.com is still available)
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To: GrandmaPatriot
Gee, what we're seeing here is Hawaiian racism.
29 posted on 10/28/2003 12:05:25 PM PST by ampat
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To: JohnGalt
going to the courts.... will solve nothing

You got that right.

BTW, you being a New England activist (You are aren't you?) what's your opinion of the FSP effort in New Hampshire? I have a piece of land in Vermont I am developing into a small subsistance farm so I can escape from paradise in a year or two and I'm interested in whats going on in the neighborhood.

(Why Vermont? You might ask. The answer is Ruby Slippers)

30 posted on 10/28/2003 2:10:41 PM PST by Chuckster ("There's no place like home" Dorothy)
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To: Chuckster
Click here The 1814 Society. I have a greeting and a link on the arrival of the Free Staters. You may appreciate the links to the great breweries of VT as well. I am not an activist as you maybe using the word; I think the political process has been a major let down and there are better things to do. I am pursuing a different theory on spreading liberty through rejecting ideology and pursuing regionalism. I signed up for the FSP years ago, with the caveat that I would likely only move to NH-- and low and behold, they selected NH...how 'bout that I thought? The press, both local and national, is phenomenal for sheer volume.
31 posted on 10/28/2003 2:18:51 PM PST by JohnGalt (Attention Pseudocons: Wilsonianrepublic.com is still available)
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To: GrandmaPatriot
The article refers to Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher as a Washington D.C. based firm.

It is actually a Los Angeles based firm, although it does maintain offices in D.C. Such luminaries as William French Smith (Reagan's 1st AttGen) and the current SolGen, Ted Olson, hail from GD&C.

Also, as an FYI, GD&C represented the WashPost and LATimes in their suits against Free Republic. GD&C won that case too.

32 posted on 10/28/2003 2:26:36 PM PST by jas3
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To: JohnGalt
Cool! (The 1814 Society page) I'd move back right now (OK, lets be sensible and wait 'til June) except for having to leave my income behind. Can't swing it just yet. But soon.
33 posted on 10/28/2003 3:30:35 PM PST by Chuckster ("Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it." George Bernard Shaw)
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