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1 posted on 10/26/2003 9:52:12 PM PST by spectr17
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There's a viewer that can be used to zoom in on a map to see what's going on in a particular area. Below is the San Diego region.


447 posted on 10/27/2003 8:36:59 AM PST by John Jorsett
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Someone just called into cnn and said there were 3 in custody for starting the San Diego fires. Turns out it was someone from the Howard Stern show....lol..oh man...they get on EVERY SINGLE TIME!!!! Kagan looked like she was gonna have a litter of kittens she was so pissed.
466 posted on 10/27/2003 8:53:41 AM PST by My Favorite Headache (I Want A Girlfriend)
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Lord we ask that you would Bless them today ..watch over them.....enable them to rescue and save...may the tide turn today..may a good report be our shout of thanks!



488 posted on 10/27/2003 9:03:42 AM PST by Light Speed
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KFI AM 640 More Stimulating Talk Radio <------Live coverage in the LA area
518 posted on 10/27/2003 9:29:07 AM PST by Gucho
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How far is the fire from the old Santa's Village in the Lake Arrowhead area?
644 posted on 10/27/2003 10:47:36 AM PST by Floratina
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Fires Take Lives, Homes
Fire Forces Evacuations, School Closures

POSTED: 1:09 p.m. PST October 26, 2003
UPDATED: 10:55 a.m. PST October 27, 2003

SAN DIEGO -- Wildfires continued to burn in San Diego County today after claiming at least 11 lives, destroying more than 460 homes and forcing the evacuation of thousands of residents.

Gov. Gray Davis declared a state of emergency for San Diego County and planned to ask President Bush for disaster declarations for San Diego, Los Angeles, Ventura and San Bernardino counties, making them eligible for federal and state aid for fire victims.

Davis plans to visit San Diego today at 12 p.m. He will meet with Mayor Dick Murphy and tour the Scripps Ranch area.

The Cedar fire, which broke out near Ramona late Saturday and spread to Scripps Ranch, El Cajon, Crest, and Alpine amid strong Santa Ana winds, high temperatures and low humidity, had charred more than 200,000 acres by this morning, according to 10News.

The blaze burned more than 150 structures around Scripps Ranch and 10 in Tierrasanta, the San Diego Fire Department reported. Elsewhere, the flames moved into the foothills above Santee and forced evacuations in the Shadow Mountain area on the east side of El Cajon.

"There were some structures destroyed up on the end of Camino Monte Sombra, in the Shadow Mountain area, off Madison Avenue," U.S. Forest Service Battalion Chief Andy Menshek said.

About 50 to 100 structures were destroyed in Crest, just east of El Cajon, 10News reported.

Authorities were checking reports of structures newly burned on Olde Highway 80 near Spring View Court in Flinn Springs and the Garden Road neighborhood of Poway.

There were also reports of mandatory evacuations in the Alpine Heights area and as far east as Descanso.

Wayne Whalen, who watched the flames in the hills above his 5-year-old Santee neighborhood Sunday, said he hadn't seen firefighters for hours.

"If the wind stays the way it's going, we'll probably escape the bullet," Whalen said. "If the wind changes, we're screwed."

In Valley Center, a blazed dubbed the Paradise fire destroyed 57 homes and 103 outbuildings, a CDF dispatcher said. The Flames had scorched approximately 15,000 acres by last night, and containment was not expected until Oct. 30.

The Otay fire was burning toward Proctor Valley and Dulzura, also having charred an estimated 15,000 acres, according to 10News. No homes were immediately threatened.

A fourth fire, which broke out last week at the Camp Pendleton Marine base during live-fire exercises, had scorched 4,800 acres by this morning and was 75 percent contained.

Most of the deaths occurred as people tried to escape the fast-moving Cedar and Paradise fires early Sunday.

Three died on the Barona Indian Reservation, four died on Muth Valley Road off Wildcat Canyon Road, one died in a vehicle near the Valley Center fire station, one died on Yellow Brick Road in Valley Center, and two died at local hospitals.

The fires has forced the closures of most school and colleges throughout San Diego County.
672 posted on 10/27/2003 11:08:12 AM PST by BurbankKarl
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723 posted on 10/27/2003 11:42:41 AM PST by texasbluebell
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I have relatives who live outside of Palm Springs. Is any of this headed in that direction?
788 posted on 10/27/2003 12:41:51 PM PST by hsmomx3 (I DID NOT vote for that woman, Napolitano!)
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Looks like the number of fires is diminishing. Below is a map of the current situation, and below that one from earlier in the day. You can also see from the smoke plumes that the wind direction has shifted and perhaps diminished in velocity.


813 posted on 10/27/2003 1:02:11 PM PST by John Jorsett
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How far is it from Sky Forest? What about SANTA'S VILLAGE?????
818 posted on 10/27/2003 1:05:06 PM PST by Floratina
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This is an emergency thread for Freepers to keep track of their loved ones and friends while they are in harms way.

There are numerous other threads on which to continue the recall debate.

1,073 posted on 10/27/2003 3:13:14 PM PST by Amerigomag
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Burn baby burn.


BUMP

1,143 posted on 10/27/2003 3:37:35 PM PST by tm22721 (May the UN rest in peace)
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Now I am not saying these latest fires are the work of ELF but they did claim responsibility for the one in this article.


San Diego Fire
Earth First! Journal
September, 2003
By Rod Coronado

In the largest act of environmental sabotage in US history, the Earth Liberation Front (ELF) has accepted responsibility for a $50 million fire in San Diego, California, that destroyed an unfinished five-story condominium complex on August 1. The complex is owned by Garden Communities, the second largest developer in Southern California. Nationwide, Garden Communities owns more than 40,000 apartments and 25 million square feet of commercial space.

Fire crews arrived on the scene and evacuated apartments surrounding the 34-acre construction site. No one was hurt in the blaze, which was credited to the ELF through a painted slogan:

"If you build it-we will burn it. E.L.F."

The fire was in San Diego's Golden Triangle area, which boasts a mix of luxury apartments, upscale office buildings, fashionable retail centers and biotechnology companies.

The Golden Triangle is adjacent to Rose Canyon-home to bobcats, coyotes, ash-throated flycatchers, red-shouldered hawks, barn owls and orioles, as well as at least two rare and threatened plants.

From 2,000 years ago until the last century, the Kumeyaay people inhabited a seasonal village in Rose Canyon, gathering acorns from the once abundant coastal live oaks, weaving baskets from the arroyo willow and hunting not far from where a seven-million-dollar crane was destroyed by the ELF fire.

San Diego County is one of the most rapidly growing regions in the US and has been identified as one of the world's 25 biodiversity "hotspots." It also boasts the fifth worst rush-hour commute in the nation.
The Garden Communities project was approved in 2000, despite opposition from nearby residents.

Many who hike Rose Canyon's four-mile length are tired of the sprawl engulfing the canyon and have expressed support for the ELF's efforts to draw attention to the development of San Diego's last remaining wetlands and wild places.

The US Fish and Wildlife Service transferred Endangered Species Act implementation authority to the developer-friendly San Diego government in 1998.

The Multiple Species Conservation Plan (MSCP) acts as a regional Habitat Conservation Plan that was established to cover nearly 900 square miles.

As one of the Southwest's first large-scale plans to protect entire ecosystems rather than just particular species, the MSCP has proven to be inadequate in preserving native biodiversity and ensuring the recovery of endangered animals and plants in San Diego County.

Ê "I think it's a positive statement that at least someone somewhere is trying to point out that over-development is clogging our already congested urban areas.
This is a war to protect the environment, to raise the consciousness of people," said 41-year-old Richard Marose, a local restaurant manager.
Marose also noted that rain and humidity made the night of the fire moist enough to prevent it from spreading to Rose Canyon: "The canyon would have gone up in smoke if this was done at any other time." He refused to talk to agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms who wanted to question him.

This particular project, La Jolla Crossroads, when completed would comprise 1,800 apartments with an average monthly rent of $1,340.

The 42-acre Nobel Research Center, which will house the biotechnology company IDEC Corporation, is planned to be built adjacent to the site.

Following the fire, a small, hand-printed sign was taped to a traffic barrier near the construction site: "Thank-You E.L.F. Burn Baby Burn."
Tad Simmons of Carlsbad said that as an environmentalist he had mixed feelings about the fire.
"Part of me thinks it's kind of cool that somebody had the guts to stand for something like this-a cause, and that nobody ever gets hurt."

No arrests have been made, but the FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Force said several suspects were being tracked.

On August 14, FBI agents raided the home of animal rights activists affiliated with the San Diego-based Compassion for Farm Animals (CFA).

CFA organized a lecture with Rod Coronado on the day of the ELF fire. Agents seized phone lists, a computer, a video camera and videotape of the lecture, which was part of on-going Revolution Summer events in San Diego.

Since the fire, CFA activists have been under constant surveillance and have had their home mysteriously broken into and vehicle stolen.(gee wonder if it was an Astro Van?)
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1,239 posted on 10/27/2003 4:18:58 PM PST by oceanperch
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Where is this fire in relation to El Cajon? I have family there.
1,353 posted on 10/27/2003 5:01:45 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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1,845 posted on 10/27/2003 7:50:20 PM PST by restornu
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Welcome to California. Happy Ramadan.


1,972 posted on 10/27/2003 8:33:37 PM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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Ok spectr17 are ya still with us.

It is officially past midnight.

Are you going to start a new thread?

Anyone?

Or did someone start it already?

How are the winds at this time?
2,116 posted on 10/28/2003 12:40:57 AM PST by oceanperch
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Links to Free Republic pages on the Southern California Wildfires, (and arson) Sept. - Oct. - Nov. 2003

September 19, 2003 - Friday

ELF suspected in two more fires in San Diego this morning (posted by Tree of Liberty)

October 21, 2003 - Tuesday

Fires Breakout all over Southern Cal (posted by al baby)

October 25, 2003 - Saturday

Fires in SoCal are destroying homes! (650 homes) (posted by Stars N Stripes)

October 26, 2003 - Sunday

Southern CA fires - Live Thread 10/26 (4 separate major fires, incl. 1 new arson fire) (posted by mhking)

San Diego County fires - Live Thread 10/26 (posted by socal_parrot)

Crisis on our National Forests: Reducing the Threat of Catastrophic Wildfire [San Bernardino Fires] (posted by Carry_Okie)

Wildfires merge in Southern California; 14 dead, 650 homes lost (posted by Brian S)

October 27, 2003 - Monday

Southern CA fires - Live Thread 10/27 (posted by spectr17)

13 dead in California Wlidfires, 850 homes burned (posted by GeronL)

October 28, 2003 - Tuesday

SoCal Fires Live Thread 10/28 (posted by spectr17)

October 29, 2003 - Wednesday

Southern California Fires -- Live Thread 10/29 (posted by lainie)

3.7 Earthquake under California Fires... (posted by ALOHA RONNIE)

October 30, 2003 - Thursday

Southern California Fires -- Live Thread 10/30 (posted by lainie)

October 31, 2003 - Friday

Southern California Fires ... 10/31 (posted by lainie)

November 1, 2003 - Saturday

Southern California Fires Live Thread -- 11/1/2003 (posted by lainie)

November 2, 2003 - Sunday

Southern California Fires Live Thread -- 11/2/2003, Sunday

re: California Fires -- LISTEN TO DR. BILL WATTENBURG TONIGHT ON KGO (10:00 PM PACIFIC) (posted by doug from upland)

 

2,139 posted on 11/02/2003 7:13:26 AM PST by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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