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"Naked" Miss Afghanistan slammed (Shut-Up Burqa Boys, she lives in the Land of the Free)
AFP via Melbourne Herald Sun ^
| 27 October 2003
Posted on 10/26/2003 9:09:04 PM PST by Stultis
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To: John O
Christian was a very fanatical religion for centuries, with the Crusades (well intentioned, but with some rather horrific slaughters in Jerusalem and Constantinople) and the Inquisition. Nevertheless, the violent fanatical element of Christianity has been more or less expunged with the Renaissance, Reformation and Enlightenment (which were of course not entirely positive for the faith, but did provide this signal service). I see no reason why Islam cannot be "tamed" as it were the way Christianity was.
To: Unam Sanctam
Christian was a very fanatical religion for centuries, with the Crusades (well intentioned, but with some rather horrific slaughters in Jerusalem and Constantinople) and the Inquisition. Nevertheless, the violent fanatical element of Christianity has been more or less expunged with the Renaissance, Reformation and Enlightenment (which were of course not entirely positive for the faith, but did provide this signal service). I see no reason why Islam cannot be "tamed" as it were the way Christianity was. Excellent points. Here's the difference though. The most atrocious deeds performed in the name of Christ were performed in violation of Christ's word. The crusades (or at least the brutality which occurred during them), the inquisition, the salem witch trials, all of these are violations of scripture.
The most atrocious deeds done in the name of islam are perfectly in accordance with, and commanded by the koran. WTC, the actions of the taliban, palestinian homicide bombings, all perfect examples of adherence to koranic commands. The islamic is commanded to fight with the unbeliever near to them.
So we have on one hand a religion whose main command is to love God and love your neighbor. (Christianity)
On the other hand we have a religion whose command is to fear God and subjugate or kill your neighbor. (islam)
Which would you expect to live peacebly and which would you expect would have to be eradicated for peace to exist?
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posted on
10/28/2003 8:27:44 AM PST
by
John O
(God Save America (Please))
To: Stultis
It certainly is too bad that that green eyed beauty on the cover of the National Geographic didn't enter a beauty contest.
A hands down winner!
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posted on
10/28/2003 8:58:48 AM PST
by
aShepard
(-It's always about me!)
To: John O
So why are their rules on such things as which hand to use when wiping one's bottom and such other nonsense?Read 19:Numbers. There is much mystery and bizarre in my own religion.
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posted on
10/28/2003 9:44:03 AM PST
by
Alter Kaker
(Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
To: Alter Kaker
Read 19:Numbers. There is much mystery and bizarre in my own religion. I seem to be missing your point. Numbers 19 deals with the ritual cleansing of those who handle the dead. What's mysterious or bizarre about this?
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posted on
10/28/2003 11:09:16 AM PST
by
John O
(God Save America (Please))
To: Unam Sanctam
"The display is immodest and makes of woman a mere sexual object. Moreover it is a provocation to Moslem believers."
They are excercising freedom. No one makes them appear in a bathing suit. Anyone 'provoked' by this is welcome to not participate.
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posted on
10/28/2003 11:18:41 AM PST
by
bk1000
(one of these days I simply MUST come up with a decent tag line.)
To: Stultis
Now that's one fantastic body!
To: Stultis
As a man...getting older sadly....I must confess that I have learned with age that women in varying forms of dressed to undressed including bikinis etc. are arguably one of the reasons for living. Pure joy.
I would rank that joy right up there with having children and obviously the two kind of dovetail at some point.
One's appreciation or disdain for scanty clothing or overt female sexuality or nudity is a private matter to me.
I instinctively feel this way apart from my religious ideals. My hypocrisy only goes so far.
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posted on
10/28/2003 11:27:09 AM PST
by
wardaddy
(...and Yes, I'll be your huckleberry.)
To: Unam Sanctam
"The sexual revolution had a victim, and it is women, since it freed men from any obligations to commitment."
Careful what you wish for, you just may get it!
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posted on
10/28/2003 11:30:45 AM PST
by
bk1000
(one of these days I simply MUST come up with a decent tag line.)
To: John O; Yehuda; SJackson; yonif; Simcha7; American in Israel; spectacularbid2003; Binyamin; ...
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posted on
10/28/2003 5:26:51 PM PST
by
Salem
(FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
To: expatguy; Alter Kaker
re: pedophilia among Muslims ; Perhaps another factor is the history of Mohammed himself. He married a six year old girl at one point, and consummated the marriage when she was nine, I believe. And this is their example.
"What would Mohammed do?"
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posted on
10/29/2003 3:18:19 AM PST
by
ovrtaxt
( http://www.fairtax.org **** Forget ANWR. Drill Israel !)
To: Unam Sanctam
And as a prudential matter, I don't see this as progress for Afghanistan, but rather a propaganda coup for the Talibans who will blame it all on us decadent infidels. Bikini or burka? Which, in your mind, is worse?
To: Unam Sanctam
Frankly, dressing like Madonna or Britney Spears is a step backward for women. The sexual revolution had a victim, and it is womenI'll ask you the question others in the "we're headed downhill" crowd always decline to answer. What year was the highpoint for women? In other words, we were going in the right direction until when? When did the downhill trend begin?
To: ChemistCat
"I can't help but think that some of these young ladies look unhealthily thin"
You don't have to starve yourself to look that good. Just eat a healthy low carb diet and moderate excercise.
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posted on
10/29/2003 4:07:13 AM PST
by
Crispy
To: joyful1
The One you need to convince is the Holy One. He is power. He controls all. He exists. Therein lies the problem. I can't seem to get in touch.
To: Stultis
PRESIDENT Hamid Karzai's minister for women's affairs yesterday condemned Miss Afghanistan, as Vida Samadzai became the country's first woman in the post-Taliban era to appear in a bikini during a beauty contest in Manila. Bikini? That suit has got to be the burka of bikinis.
To: Crispy
Erm,
The point she was making is that they don't look good.
Counting ribs ain't a good thing.
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posted on
10/29/2003 4:17:41 AM PST
by
najida
(This is a great big sandbox for us all to play in. Don't tinkle in it.)
To: laredo44
I'll ask you the question others in the "we're headed downhill" crowd always decline to answer. What year was the highpoint for women? In other words, we were going in the right direction until when? When did the downhill trend begin? I'd hazard a guess and say sometime in the late fifties to early sixties. Women used to be put on pedestals and treated far better than they are today. The sexual revolution did destroy a lot of advantages that they had. Most of them just don't realize it yet.
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posted on
10/29/2003 4:18:08 AM PST
by
John O
(God Save America (Please))
To: Stultis
We condemn Vida Samadzai, she is not representing Afghanistan's women, and this is not women's freedom."Yes, and I suppose his idea of women's freedom is being covered from head to toe and being a second class citizen, not allowed to leave home without a male's permission.
To: Unam Sanctam
The display is immodest and makes of woman a mere sexual object. Moreover it is a provocation to Moslem believers. Liberty has and contiues to provoke. Most are not inclined to accept it. It's always something. Some reason they must force their will on others. Often the reason is associated with religion -- communism/socialism being the big exception.
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