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Dutch Muslims Growing Tired of Hostile Climate
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Posted on 10/26/2003 9:00:37 PM PST by chance33_98

Dutch Muslims Growing Tired of Hostile Climate

THE HAGUE, 27 October 2003 ­— On the eve of the holy month of Ramadan many Dutch Muslims are worried about the increasingly hostile climate toward Islam in the traditionally tolerant Netherlands.

After the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks on the United States, the Netherlands was one of the European countries with the highest increase reported in verbal or physical attacks on Muslims or Islamic symbols, according to a United Nations report on human rights.

The meteoric rise of rightwing populist politician Pim Fortuyn, who called Islam “backward” in 2002, marked a polarization in the political debate.

“Since Fortuyn it is like you can say whatever you want to Muslims or Moroccans, there is no respect,” says Moroccan-born Karima Belhaj, a project manager in an organization that helps minorities get better access to health care.

“It seems like all Muslims are backward, all Moroccan youths are criminals and all Muslim women are oppressed.”

At 32, Belhaj, an elegant woman with jet-black hair, wants to show the other side of Islam.

“I have a job, I speak Dutch, I stood up to my parents ... I believe in the freedom of religion and that religion and politics should be separate. I did that and hundreds of other Muslim women here did the same.”

The weariness that Belhaj feels is a sentiment that is shared by many of the Netherlands’ 920,000 Muslims, most of them of Moroccan or Turkish descent.

“I have had it up to here. I am fed up with the anti-Islamic mood in the Netherlands,” Surinam-born Muslim Hikmat Mahawat Khan explains in perfect Dutch.

“I do not have a problem with the discussion about my religion but I take issue with the aggressive way it is being conducted,” he adds.

Unfortunately voices like Belhaj’s and Mahawat are not often heard in the discussion.

“At the moment there is no room for dissent in the debate. The media are looking for the more extremist views because they score better with the public,” Belhaj sighs.

“Yes, there are extremist imams but we distance ourselves from them but why point the finger at the entire community,” says Mahawat Khan.

“If Ahmed steals a bike, I would like people to say Ahmed is a thief and not Muslims are thieves.”

Many Muslims criticize the role of the Dutch media in the debate about Islam and integration.

In December 2002 when the Dutch national security service AIVD said several dozen Dutch Muslims had been recruited for jihad or holy war the head of the AIVD stressed that this was a very small minority in the Dutch Muslim community.

The morning after the announcement many papers headlined “Muslims recruited for jihad in the Netherlands” without putting the figures in a broader perspective.

“All of a sudden people are afraid of Islam,” says Hikran, a 23-year-old woman of Turkish descent preparing for the Ramadan.

This single policewoman who has lived alone for the past few years says she tries to explain “that our religion is not barbarous.”

Many fear that pointing the finger at the whole Muslim community for the actions of a few will push young Muslims to turn away from Dutch society.

“They believed they had been accepted by Dutch society but now they are being branded criminals or extremists because the misconduct of small group.

“The risk is that they will turn away from the society that rejects them to become an easy target for extremists,” Belhaj added in Dutch.


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KEYWORDS: alqaedanetherlands; netherlands; ramadan
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1 posted on 10/26/2003 9:00:37 PM PST by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
They could try going to Saudi Arabia if they
are tried of the hostile environment.

2 posted on 10/26/2003 9:02:50 PM PST by Princeliberty
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To: chance33_98
Muslims demand that their hosts conform to all sorts of Islamic Law, that they tolerate calls for their destruction, then act surprised when there is a backlash among the natives.
3 posted on 10/26/2003 9:03:11 PM PST by Guillermo ( Proud Infidel)
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To: Princeliberty
They could try going to Saudi Arabia if they are tried of the hostile environment.

Or Iran....

4 posted on 10/26/2003 9:04:58 PM PST by chance33_98 (Check out my Updated Profile Page! (still under some construction))
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To: chance33_98
The EU has free movment now, they can always move to France
5 posted on 10/26/2003 9:08:47 PM PST by GeronL (Please visit www.geocities.com/geronl)
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To: chance33_98
Muslims complaining about Whitey. Something different... Not!
6 posted on 10/26/2003 9:10:32 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: chance33_98
Many fear that pointing the finger at the whole Muslim community for the actions of a few will push young Muslims to turn away from Dutch society.

If they were decent, they would go after the extreamists who have and are causing the problem.

7 posted on 10/26/2003 9:13:44 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: chance33_98
“I have a job, I speak Dutch, I stood up to my parents ... I believe in the freedom of religion and that religion and politics should be separate. I did that and hundreds of other Muslim women here did the same.”

You believe in "freedom of religion?" What kind of a moslem are you, Ms. Belhaj?

Come and cry to us about it after Morocco allows Christian churches to operate unthreatened in their country. Until then, just shut up and be thankful that you are even allowed to live.

8 posted on 10/26/2003 9:15:50 PM PST by nightdriver
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To: chance33_98
More seriously, maybe they should go to the mosques, etc. and try to convince their fellow Muslims to adopt similarly tolerant and assimilationist viewpoints. If there were no longer any Muslims preaching separatism and conflict and if most Muslims learned Dutch and respected Dutch social traditions I'd expect the Dutch would be happy to go back to cheese rolling or ice skating or hash smoking or whatever the heck they'd rather be doing than worrying about these hostile and potentially dangerous newcomers.
9 posted on 10/26/2003 9:16:22 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: chance33_98
Back when I was stationed in Germany I used to thank God for the Turks. They gave the Germans someone to blame besides us.

Once the district veterinarian in Schweinfurt called me out to investigate a case of supposed "animal abuse" connected to the US community. Right outside the US kaserne someone found a large dog skeleton, shot through the head.

I went up there, expecting the worst. We met at the vet's office, then went out to the "scene of the crime" where a Polizei and representative from the Tierschutzverein were taking pictures.

I went up to the jumbled pile of bones and could hardly contain my surprise. Biting my cheek, I picked up the "dog skull" and held back my smile. The cop asked if it looked more like a bullet wound or a blunt object trauma.

I couldn't resist, and showed the bottom of the skull to the vet - flat molars, no upper incisors - and said: "Todesursache (cause of death) - Ramadan."

The bones were the remains of someone's sheep barbecue.

10 posted on 10/26/2003 9:20:09 PM PST by struwwelpeter
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To: chance33_98
These Muslims have been actively trying to change laws in these "host" countries to try and force them to implement some Muslim/Sharia "law" from the "old country." They need to go back to their "old country." They are not ready for freedom and it is very ungrateful to bring their oppressive regime from whence they escaped into their new country. IMHO
11 posted on 10/26/2003 9:22:01 PM PST by Libertina
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“All of a sudden people are afraid of Islam,” says Hikran, a 23-year-old woman of Turkish descent preparing for the Ramadan.

Jeez, I wonder why?

12 posted on 10/26/2003 9:23:34 PM PST by numberonepal
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To: chance33_98
This single policewoman who has lived alone for the past few years says she tries to explain “that our religion is not barbarous.”

Oh, yest it is. And it will only stop being barbarous when every Muslim sect prevents religious based discrimination of any type against non-Muslims forever.

13 posted on 10/26/2003 9:43:04 PM PST by Post Toasties
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To: chance33_98
I believe in the freedom of religion and that religion and politics should be separate. I did that and hundreds of other Muslim women here did the same.”,

According to Fortuyn, the major problem the Dutch are having with the Muslims, is the fact that many are single moms (dad stays home in Arabia, mom and kidlets go to Europe to collect welfare) who culturally aren't allowed to discipline their sons, therefore these boys are running verrry wild in the streets of the Netherlands.

I don't blame the Dutch for being p.o.ed.

14 posted on 10/26/2003 9:44:57 PM PST by lizma
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To: chance33_98
Then go home. The Dutch have finally wised up...so have the Danes, Swedes , Swiss and Norwegians..Time is running out.
15 posted on 10/26/2003 9:50:20 PM PST by the Real fifi
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To: chance33_98
Or hell.
16 posted on 10/26/2003 9:58:38 PM PST by SAJ
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To: chance33_98
They can leave for some jihadistan.
17 posted on 10/26/2003 10:50:39 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: sheik yerbouty
Or convert to Christianity.
18 posted on 10/26/2003 11:51:27 PM PST by Hugin
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To: chance33_98
3000 + folks of all nationalities and religions died due to the radical MUSLIMS. I heard very little if any condemnation from any of the worlds "peaceful MUSLIMS" after this disgusting attack.
Hey Muslim boy, F.U.
Assimilate into any society? F.U.
Move into my neighborhood? Fine but don't expect to be welcomed.
20 posted on 10/27/2003 2:16:30 AM PST by Joe Boucher
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