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Bernat said his 1994 panel looked into more than 70 "alleged late recoverers" and found that "there wasn't a single one that was verified, so I'm very skeptical."

Can anyone refute this nonsense?

10 posted on 10/26/2003 8:04:43 PM PST by narses ("The do-it-yourself Mass is ended. Go in peace" Francis Cardinal Arinze of Nigeria)
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The dr, like Velos, just isn't feeling the right vibes of kharmic energy.
17 posted on 10/26/2003 8:18:05 PM PST by At _War_With_Liberals
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Can anyone refute this nonsense?

What you apparently mean is: Can't anyone (please) come up with more absurd "save Terri" nonsense to refute this fact.

34 posted on 10/26/2003 8:34:34 PM PST by Normally a Lurker
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Odd ... the one thing we know for certain (acc'd to Bernat, et al.) is that Terri is not in a "vegetative" state.

This too was an interesting cite:

Objective assessment of residual brain function is difficult in patients with severe brain injury because their motorresponses may be limited or inconsistent (Laureyset al., 2002b).

In addition, consciousness is not an all-or-none phenomenon but should rather be con-ceptualized as a continuum between different states(Wade and Johnston, 1999).

There is also a theoretical limitation to the certainty of our clinical diagnosis, since we can only infer the presence or absence of conscious experience in another person(Bernat, 1992).

believe this is the right article

This promises to be a good read as well:

Quality of neurological care. Balancing cost control and ethics. Bernat JL Arch Neurol 1997 Nov;54(11):1341-5

39 posted on 10/26/2003 8:37:56 PM PST by Askel5
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The lefties are using a logic trap that appears to be working on many of us. The trap is that they have twisted the value of her life to the presumption that she must fully recover or be nothing.

We should not fall into that trap. Too many who mean well already have.

It goes something like this: A leftie and a normal person are arguing. The leftie says suboptimum life is worthless and the normal person says suboptimum life is of great value. The leftie responds by saying, "Your mother wears combat boots" and the normal person says: "No she doesn't". The argument is switched to combat boots.

Sanctity of Terri's life is the issue, not the degree of her potential recovery.

IOW if she doesn't regain enough abilities to become a trapese artist or a scholar in physics, all has failed, so we may as well snuff her. They set the standards for success high enough so they will never be attained and then claim victory when we fail to meet those standands.

What they don't want any of us to understand is that if Terri only partly recovers, or even remains the same, her life is just as precious to her and to those who love her.
They want us to understand if her functions are below their standards, her soul has no value.

Oh Lord, if our son would have had the abilities Terri already has shown, we would have been overwhelmed with joy all those years. Terri's family will be grateful for whatever cards they are dealt if they can wrench her from those ghouls this Halloween season.

109 posted on 10/27/2003 3:49:24 AM PST by 8mmMauser
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Can anyone refute this nonsense?

How can you call it nonsense if you can't refute it?

130 posted on 10/27/2003 1:12:46 PM PST by cinFLA
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