[Smokin' Joe]

Levin's doorbell was not the only one the boys rang Saturday morning. Residents up and down the 6100 block of Woodbury reported being awakened by ringing doorbells and knocks shortly after midnight. Most said they sloughed it off or answered the door, found nobody there and went back to bed. But a second round of frantic pounding and shouting from Drewes' friend minutes later caught their attention.

Carol Quiroga, who lives across the street from Levin, heard nothing outside as she made her way to bed minutes before the shooting -- no arguing, no scuffling. A loud "pop," broke the silence, followed by someone saying calmly, "Call 911" once, then again, she said. What sounded like a boy's voice came next, saying "Help. I need help."

Testimony conflicts. If all these doorbells were rung and doors knocked on, how come Quiroga didn't hear any of it? Not even running, laughing, pranksters. IMHO this is being spun as an anti CCW story, even to the point of repeating unconfirmed allegations of the kid being shot in the back, well enough to give a couple of participants here the impression that the kid was shot in the back by the 'evil concealed weapons permit holder'.

The 'facts', as presented, do not add up.

[muawiyah]

Do we hear noises as we go off to bed? Last evening we'd gone out to the grocery. Our youngest son stayed home to study and go to bed early.

When we arrived there were over a dozen pieces of major fire department equipment in our neighborhood. A house two doors down from our own had burned.

Once the equipment cleared out we went straight home only to discover that our son hadn't heard a thing.