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To: nuconvert
Rhetorically but seriously, I ask you if all islamists are not terrorists, where is the outcry of the supposedly non-terroristic muslims against terrorism? If you're not against it, you're FOR it!

Put it in different words; it still means the same thing: Silence is acquiescence, acquiescence is de facto support, and support means you're FOR it! There simply are NO islamic groups anywhere in the world who are speaking out against terrorism. Therefore......DUH!

Having said this, I know a lot of Turkish muslims with whom I would trust my life. Conversely, I do NOT know any pakistanis, or any wahabbi-sect muslim, or any muslim from any other country (including the USA), for that matter, who I would trust to Pee properly!

I hope it's NOT merely a matter of time before they start their stupid muslim death tricks in North America (9/11 notwithstanding) - one schoolbus bombing here in the states and we're gonna start playing (sincerest apologies to the American Indian on this one) cowboys and muslims, and it'll be over very quickly - hope I'm wrong, but I have yet to hear a realistic alternative (hollywierd stupidity WILL NOT WORK - hope they don't get killed when they go over there; on the other hand, what would be the downside....?).

As long as there is a muslim out there who believes the koran, which is very specific on how to deal with infidels, how can there be peace? Koran-believing muslims do NOT want peace, they want to kill infidels (including liberals). Can ANYONE point to ANY muslim group who is saying, specifically, this is not true?

Islam is at war with all that is not islamic, and that includes me! Given the chance, I'll be shooting first!!

51 posted on 10/27/2003 12:48:35 PM PST by mil-vet
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To: mil-vet
Mil-vet:
This is another media related problem. They don't report what's going on around the world, so no one knows. Hopefully, the quotes below will shed some light. There are several other articles that have been posted here on FR on this very subject. Muslims ARE denouncing terrorists.
Changes ARE ocurring within the religion, but they take time. We need the moderate Muslims to make these changes within their religion. We should support them, not condemn them. With 1.2 billion worldwide, we need their help.

"where is the outcry of the supposedly non-terroristic muslims against terrorism?"
(Please see link in #47.)

"There simply are NO islamic groups anywhere in the world who are speaking out against terrorism."
(Please see quote below.)
"Egypt - where the Jihadist movement appears to have suffered its first major political defeat, followed by mass defections. Virtually the whole of the Gamaa-Islamiyah (Islamic Society) leadership has publicly renounced violence in the past year or so.'
(quote from Amir Taheri article, 10-03-03-)

"It is ironic that on the eve of the murderous action of Islamists on Sept 11th, when Islamists claimed that the world wants them to continue their atrocities, and they kept talking of hate for Americans abroad, more and more the people of the Middle East are passing a hand of rejection to the Islamists, and not just the people who do not care for religion or Islam, but even a great majority of Muslims do not want to hear or see the Islamists anymore, and have had enough murder and terror of the Islamists especially in the last 30 years"
"...the common reality is that the Islamic Fundamentalism of the end of 1970's is now disintegrating." "The order which has suppressed the Middle Eastern people all these years, and the Islamists are now at the end of their road, when people are calling for full secularism." (Sam Ghandchi)
52 posted on 10/27/2003 1:45:40 PM PST by nuconvert
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