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To: US admirer
Put up, or shut up. I am standing in front of High School classes for 5-6 hours a day (ever heard of "block-scheduling"... and that's not counting the after-school remediation to get the kids prepped for the state tests at the end of the year, for which I get paid nothing). Now provide the evidence for your statement. Oh, and I make 1/3 of the numbers thrown around in this article, and had a 100% pass rate on the state SOL last year (and a 95% the year before).

The problem is that teaching salaries are assigned by seniority, not performance (so the teacher down the hall that's doing nothing gets paid much more than I do simply because she's been there 10 years longer). Consistent performance is what should be rewarded, not longevity. But considering how many people in this world have earned their salaries via longevity, as opposed to what they actually produce in their job, I think a lot of people on here are throwing stones in glass houses...

68 posted on 10/26/2003 7:32:12 AM PST by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Only a fool depends on others for his education, because only he suffers the consequences of failure)
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)
I taught in high school for 5 years as a second job. Ya, second job! I got to know a lot of whiners and complainers like you who could’nt make it any where else. It was the easiest job of my life and relatively speaking the best paying. With some notable exceptions, the adage of "those that can do, those that can't teach” was re-affirmed repeatedly. Ever wonder why education is going downhill and public education is a freakish nightmare. If you in the majority, just look in the mirror.
76 posted on 10/26/2003 8:02:23 AM PST by US admirer
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)
You wrote:

"The problem is that teaching salaries are assigned by seniority, not performance (so the teacher down the hall that's doing nothing gets paid much more than I do simply because she's been there 10 years longer). Consistent performance is what should be rewarded, not longevity. But considering how many people in this world have earned their salaries via longevity, as opposed to what they actually produce in their job, I think a lot of people on here are throwing stones in glass houses... "

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You make some good points. I think longevity...actually should be a considered in salary increases. But is most certainly shouldn't carry more weight than performance..!

I've worked at many places...( healthcare..) where you almost had to be a mass murderer...to NOT get the "big" ( maybe we will give it..) yearly auto 2-3% raise. It made the people that were nearly always on time, nearly always willing to help others, and generally just "good" employees...wonder if it was worth it. The practice reminds me of socialism/communism...where performance starts to take a dive....even with the people who actually "care".

Ummmmmmmmm...I think I've swerved into some truth..!!! LOL!!

Take Care,

93 posted on 10/26/2003 9:05:59 AM PST by Osage Orange (Warning: Congress is in Session. Hide your valubles. Watch your purses, and wallets.)
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)
Put up, or shut up. I am standing in front of High School classes for 5-6 hours a day ...

I for one am glad to hear teachers on these threads, which otherwise usually degenerate quickly into nothing but public school bashing.

146 posted on 04/24/2004 2:00:40 PM PDT by valkyrieanne
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