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Unexplained tree-top boulders found in forest (URBs)
Brown County Democrat ^ | 10/22/2003 | Judy Hess

Posted on 10/25/2003 10:36:15 PM PDT by SteveH

Unexplained tree-top boulders found in forest

By Judy Hess Staff writer
JHess@bcdemocrat.com

Something unnatural is going on in Yellowwood State Forest.

The mystery began a few years ago when a turkey hunter, scouting in a remote area of the 23,000-acre forest, discovered a large boulder in the top of an 80-foot-tall chestnut oak tree. What he saw wedged among its branches was a boulder about 4 feet wide and a foot thick.

The boulder was eventually dubbed Gobbler's Rock after the turkey hunter. It sits high on a south-facing slope overlooking a ravine near Tulip Tree Road in western Brown County and is thought to weigh at least 400 pounds.

After the initial sighting of Gobbler's Rock, hikers have found at least two more giant sandstone boulders sitting in the top limbs of two sycamores. One boulder is nearly 45 feet off the ground and both rocks appear to weigh about 200 pounds. The trees are 100 yards apart growing near the banks of Plum Creek in a seldom-visited part of Yellowwood State Forest, just southwest of Helmsburg.

Known to locals as URBs, or Unexplained Resting Boulders, officials can't explain how the boulders got wedged into the branches in the first place. The huge rocks couldn't grow upward with the trees because the saplings could not have withstood their weight. The boulders must have been placed high in the trees after their trunks were sturdy enough to support them.

Sandstone boulders are a part of the natural Yellowwood setting. They are scattered around the forest floor so the rocks could have originated near the trees.

But officials can't find any proof that this was caused by a natural event or that someone played a joke. A joke that would require heavy-duty moving equipment to get the boulders into the branches.

As theories abound from fraternity pranks, tornadoes, to high winds or floods, the strange phenomenon is now the focus of several UFO Web sites.

In fact, the rock-in-a-tree is highlighted at abduct.com, a UFO-related Web site.

The Web site posts a few comments from a UFO investigator about Gobbler's Rock and asks "did a UFO put a boulder in this tree?"

"If the rock was blown into the tree, why isn't there some sign of damage to the bark? It had to be gently rested in the branches, I would think, but by what?" the investigator asks.

Another UFO Web site ponders such questions like "could an examination of the trees reveal whether they had had damage at a young age? Can anyone think of a mechanism whereby the boulders were lifted as the trees grew?"

Mark Shields, a Yellowwood employee, says "Just about every theory has been shot down."

"If I had to guess, maybe a tornado," Mr. Shields said.

He stated it's unlikely that blasting at some nearby site would have blown the rock into its perch. The most logical answer, he said, is that a tornado picked the rock up and dropped it in the branches. Although he admits that theory's not very likely because of the way the boulder sits in the tree.

"The rocks sits right in the crown of the tree," Mr. Shields said.

If you'd like to try finding the huge boulders, you'll need a compass. The trees are a considerable distance from the nearest roadway.

Directions to

Gobbler's Rock:

To find Gobbler's Rock from the Yellowwood State Forest office, head north on Yellowwood Lake Road, then turn west on Lanam Ridge Road. From Lanam Ridge Road, turn left onto Indiana 45, and then quickly turn south on Tulip Tree Road. Follow this gravel road about two miles, and park in a small pull-off near the gate.

Using a compass, continue walking south about a half-mile, and look for a cleared, grassy area on the left. Look for an old logging path that leads east from the cleared area, and follow it east and south. Gobbler÷Õ Rock is high on a south-facing slope overlooking a ravine. (GPS coordinates: N39 12.204, W86 21.955)

Directions to

the sycamore tree rocks:

Travel north on Yellowwood Lake Road about three miles from the Yellowwood State Forest office. Turn east on Lanam Ridge Road. Follow the road about three miles, and turn west on Dollsberry Lane, about a mile south of Helmsburg. Follow the gravel road until it ends. Park in a small parking area on the south side of the roadway.

From this point, a compass is required because there is no marked trail or path, and underbrush in some areas is thick. Follow the old roadway west, and then southwest. South of the pond, which is on private property, travel southwest to Plum Creek, following the creek as it meanders west. The two sycamores holding the rocks are on the north creek bank, about a third of a mile west-southwest from the parking area. The trees are about 100 yards apart, but not visible from each other. (GPS coordinates: N39 14.986, W86 18.492, N39 14.984, W8618.560)


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: boulders; catastrophism; unexplained; urbs
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To: SteveH; Doctor Stochastic
If a person is tempted to have an opinion about something he or she has utterly no knowledge, and then forwards an hypothesis based on this opinion, then I for one am under no obligation to consider this hypothesis or opinion as more valid than, say, the barking of a dog - unless they at least bound their imaginations by Occam's Razor!!!

Right, Doc?

21 posted on 10/25/2003 11:24:13 PM PDT by Iris7 (Victory, always Victory, at any cost, though the beasts of Hell march against us!!!!!)
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To: SteveH
Bigfoot is playing a joke on us.
22 posted on 10/25/2003 11:27:43 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Virtue untested is innocence)
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To: SteveH
The resting boulders don't bother me so much. it's the ones that move that have me worried.

http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/OddPics/Playa.html

23 posted on 10/25/2003 11:36:07 PM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: Doctor Stochastic
That's better than assuming that when the tree was a sapling, the rock was only a pebble.

Maybe it is a part of the tree that went inanimate. Reverse evolution.

It could happen.

If we start looking today, I am quite positive we will find transitional’s that are partly alive and partly un-alive. Evolution doesn't always seek out complexity like we have been predicting, just the survivability of rocks. I am making a scientific prediction that baring catastrophe this newly found inanimate tree will outlast a Bristle Cone Pine.

As smience journal, a pear-reviewed fruitful magazine, stated, "This would be different than petrified wood. We are currently convinced that this is a new form of evolution, the leap from life to non-life without the normal "dieing" process.

This is strong evidence that supports our worldwide scientifically excepted theory.

24 posted on 10/25/2003 11:37:57 PM PDT by bondserv
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To: Doctor Stochastic
That's assuming a rope to be heavy-duty-moving-equipment.

Excellent point. Ask a professional freight handler how much effort it would take to raise and place a 200 pound object into a tree. It's really not that difficult.

Of course that brings up the subject of people with too much time on their hands.

25 posted on 10/25/2003 11:45:31 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (mislead, misled, lie, lied, failed, failure,leaked, revenge, etc., etc., etc..)
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To: SteveH
I get up to get a drink of water and check on the World Series score and I run into this thread. Trying to imagine how that rock got up in the top of that poplar is not going to help me get back to sleep. Thanks a lot.
26 posted on 10/25/2003 11:49:03 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: SteveH
On the top is says "Killroy was here"
27 posted on 10/25/2003 11:52:06 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (CCCP = clinton, chiraq, chretien, and putin = stalin wannabes)
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To: bondserv
I strongly disagree with the RET (reverse evolution theory).

Rather, it is proof that this is the method used to build Stonehenge. I have always speculated that it took a really long time to construct this huge megalithic structure, particularly since it is sometimes difficult to predict the direction of tree growth coupled with inaccuracy in determining the size of rocks at full maturity.

But this evidence is encouraging!

Still working on pyramid construction methods, difficult in the absence of fast growing trees in the area.

28 posted on 10/25/2003 11:53:10 PM PDT by FixitGuy
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To: SteveH
I've seen boulders in trees when I visited placer gold mining areas of Northern California and Southern Oregon. They appeared to have been placed by winter flooding although there was amazingly little damage to the trees. They weren't as large as these ones but were too large and high up to have been lifted by hand. The article doesn't say much about the exact topography of the area although it mentioned that the trees overlooked a ravine.
29 posted on 10/26/2003 12:03:10 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: FixitGuy
Pyramids, eh? Punch: www.geopolymer.org/archaeo4.html. You might find a few answers.
30 posted on 10/26/2003 12:06:03 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (mislead, misled, lie, lied, failed, failure,leaked, revenge, etc., etc., etc..)
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To: Jeff Chandler
I was kidding about the pyramids.

But made from an agglomeration, poured like concrete???

Where's the romance in that? I would think that some scientist would have come up with that one long before this, if there was even a chance. Was that author even in Egypt?

Another theory....Water was used and the rocks were floated on it! The water was later removed.

Easy!

31 posted on 10/26/2003 12:13:59 AM PDT by FixitGuy
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To: FixitGuy; bondserv
I think you are both ignoring the sociological and class considerations.

The rocks were obviously placed by Native Americans in a ceremonial offering to their deities.

Therefore, we should immediately cordon off the entire surrounding area as a historical sacred site, and limit access to the native peoples of the area who have been historically oppressed. Yes? Is this making any sense?

Of course, with acknowledgement of the sacred tribal area, condemnation of the property can be followed by empowerment of the tribal authorities to incorporate and more fully develop the area for tribal gaming. I think the area could support a resort complete with three to twenty casinos and associated satellite operations-- ski lifts, resort hotels, shopping malls, helicopter pads, horse trails, and (of course) bowling alleys. The income from these operations should be tax free and exceptions can be made to campaign finance laws to give the tribes more access to the dominant racist and oppressive political power structure. This is entirely appropriate toward restoring the pride and economic status of the oppressed Original Peoples of the region. A "buffer zone" will be added to protect the endangered species of the area, to be administered as a "World Heritage Site" under United Nations auspices.

An interactive nature gallery will inform visitors and schoolchildren of the cultural signifance of the artifacts in their native environment. The entrance fees, museum fees, and parking fees will go to the general fund, with the difference to be made up by donations and surtaxes on souveneirs, candy bars, and cigarettes sold within the World Heritage Site and buffer zone boundaries.

;-)

32 posted on 10/26/2003 12:22:36 AM PDT by SteveH
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To: FixitGuy
Yes he was in Egypt. I stumbled across this guy's work while studying concrete formulas. He makes more sense than anything else I have ever read about the construction of the (ancient)pyramids. His theories are quite practical, and the only ones you can find which compute vis-a-vis time/labor calculations.

When you consider the fact that the ancient pyramids where constructed of stone blocks the size of mobile homes cut with copper tools from limestone from across the Nile, and fit together within a hair's breadth, what other theory makes any sense at all?

Read his books. Is he right? I don't know, but don't tell me about extra-terrestrial levitation. I won't entertain the idea.
33 posted on 10/26/2003 12:25:11 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (mislead, misled, lie, lied, failed, failure,leaked, revenge, etc., etc., etc..)
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To: SteveH
A career in politics?

Ya certainly got the goods.<;^)

34 posted on 10/26/2003 12:26:50 AM PDT by FixitGuy
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To: FixitGuy
The ancient Egyptians where masters of the creation of "artificial" stone. It was a part of their religion. Clay and earthen things where "mortal", and stone was "eternal" (hardly a concept strange to Christians "earthen vessels").

They created artificial stone vessels which where even reported to recieve fresh water upon immersion into the depths of the sea (reverse osmosis).

Modern concrete is not even up to the standards of ancient
Rome's concrete, let alone ancient Egytp's.

Read the books. Fascinating.
35 posted on 10/26/2003 12:33:55 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (mislead, misled, lie, lied, failed, failure,leaked, revenge, etc., etc., etc..)
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To: Jeff Chandler
I wasn't going in the direction of the ET's.

But ya gotta admit, studying the material itself shouldn't be that difficult to determine if it is natural stone or concrete (of some sort).

If this theory is corrrect, why wouldn't it be built similarly to Boulder Dam? (A single pour??)

I undersood also that the facing stone was bright limestone, some of which still exists.

Maybe we'll know someday.

I'm old and will reasearch this after death and let ya know.

Be patient.

36 posted on 10/26/2003 12:34:57 AM PDT by FixitGuy
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To: Jeff Chandler
Spelling failing... must rest...sleep....
37 posted on 10/26/2003 12:35:32 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (mislead, misled, lie, lied, failed, failure,leaked, revenge, etc., etc., etc..)
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To: FixitGuy
The facing stone was for appearance, and the poured stones were of a limited configurations--a few different sizes. Supposedly the forms could be reused.
38 posted on 10/26/2003 12:38:12 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (mislead, misled, lie, lied, failed, failure,leaked, revenge, etc., etc., etc..)
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To: Jeff Chandler
I'm a post behind. Sounds like an interesting read. Agree, congrete is fascinating. Mine's cracked, porch, basement, garage and it's only 12 years old.

Where's an Egyptian when ya need 'em.

39 posted on 10/26/2003 12:38:50 AM PDT by FixitGuy
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To: MHGinTN
Yup

Lived in S FL

There is a massive coral rock "door" that moves with the touch of a hand too
40 posted on 10/26/2003 12:38:58 AM PDT by autoresponder (under const)
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