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Oregon Lottery Attempts to Increase Revenue
Portland Oregonian ^ | 10/25/2003 | Janie Har

Posted on 10/25/2003 8:09:17 PM PDT by ex-Texan

Oregon Lottery Attempts to Increase Revenue

The agency will buy updated terminals with a new game, 3-Way Action Poker, that it hopes will attract more players

SALEM -- Oregon lottery commissioners agreed Friday to buy updated video poker terminals loaded with a new game they hope will pump up players -- and help generate extra dollars demanded by the Legislature.

In the absence of any big-picture policy direction from Gov. Ted Kulongoski, commissioners are scrambling to find in-house means to squeeze more money out of state-sponsored gambling to pay for state programs.

Legislators didn't give the commission much direction, either, when they adjourned nearly two months ago with an $11.5 billion state budget balanced partly on the expectation that the lottery would generate an extra $67 million.

The Legislature stayed mum on two likely, and controversial, revenue options: adding easy-to-play slot machine-type line games, or cutting the compensation rates for retailers who carry the poker terminals.

"Things could change," said Lottery Director Brenda Rocklin. "Who knows where we are on line games? That's always still out there. But in the meantime, since we haven't been given the green light to go ahead with that, we just really have to look at other ways of doing things."

Mary Ellen Glynn, a spokeswoman for the governor, said it's still early and she expects him to get involved soon. Kulongoski has said he does not like line games but that he has not ruled out any options.

Profits from lottery games -- which exceeded $380 million last year -- are split among several state-supported programs, including economic development, parks and a rainy day fund for schools.

To get the $67 million specified by lawmakers, however, lottery officials say they must generate $108 million in extra profit.

Legislators offered the lottery commission some guidance by authorizing one extra video poker terminal for bars and taverns, and five extra for race tracks, bringing the total to six and 10, respectively. But the agency estimates the additional machines at nearly 500 sites will generate only $11 million of the $108 million in a fully operational biennium.

"It's a small number, and I think there are retailers out there who would like to think they would profit from having" an extra terminal, said Kathy Ortega, the agency's chief financial officer. "But you have to have enough traffic on those terminals constantly to generate extra play."

The five-member commission authorized the agency to buy an initial round of 1,500 video poker terminals from Illinois-based WMS Gaming. The agency is authorized to purchase 2,101 machines at a cost not to exceed about $17.8 million. Currently, 9,500 terminals are distributed among retail shops in Oregon.

Rocklin canceled an earlier agreement with WMS last month after field tests showed a number of problems, including lower-than-expected revenue yields and technical glitches.

But Rocklin said she decided to endorse the new agreement after WMS promised to fix the problems and offered some incentives, including a new game called 3-Way Action Poker as early as next summer.

To "have up to a year to try to max revenue, that's a big deal to us, particularly if we don't do line games," she said.

Rocklin said the lottery is continuing work on a new contract with retailers that would specify the compensation rates agents receive for carrying the machines. Retailers currently receive about 32 percent of the net proceeds. Last year, nearly 2,000 retailers collected a total of $153 million in compensation.

The contract expires in June. Janie Har: 503-221-8213; janiehar@news.oregonian.com


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: oregonlottery
What the article is not talking about:

There are rumors that players are drifting away from Oregon Lottery Games because the Lottery Commission has been tinkering with the odds on video poker and bingo games. How do I know about the rumor? Because I was present when the owner of a video club was complaining that the new chips that were installed back in 2002 had changed the possibility to winning from very slim to 'totally remote.'

Just what is being done with state lottery funds to boost the Oregon economy is a total mystery. They never report publically about what they are doing.

Oh well . . . What do I know? I refuse to play those idiotic video poker games or Bingo because I have never seen anybody actually winning.

1 posted on 10/25/2003 8:09:17 PM PDT by ex-Texan
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To: ex-Texan
The state just has to create bogus players, rig it so that they win from time to time, and the state keeps the money. Or they can hire petty criminals/homeless/etc to buy rigged lottery tickest that win and they can keep a small percent of the prize and give the rest back to the state.
3 posted on 10/25/2003 8:18:02 PM PDT by Consort
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To: JackRyanCIA
Even SC banned Video Poker.

It was called the "Crack cocaine" of gambling.

All state-sponsored gambling activities should end.
4 posted on 10/25/2003 8:28:57 PM PDT by Guillermo ( Proud Infidel)
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To: Guillermo
I disagree. It's a way to get people who don't pay much in taxes to contribute money towards the services that they end up needing.
5 posted on 10/25/2003 8:29:49 PM PDT by College Repub
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To: College Repub
"I disagree. It's a way to get people who don't pay much in taxes to contribute money towards the services that they end up needing."

Well....they probably NEED those services (welfare, food stamps, etc.) BECAUSE they are spending their time and money playing video games and lotteries......

6 posted on 10/25/2003 9:23:13 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Free people are not equal. Equal people are not free.)
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To: ex-Texan
they are a waste of $$ IMHO. and with $ so tight around here i just cant see playing video poker with my grocery budget.
and your right, i never hear a thing about where lottery $ go except when we all voted the state lottery in it was going to go for schools .well i have yet to see where its helped any school in oregon.
i remember hearing how the lottery will help people start a small business but other than that i have never heard nada.
7 posted on 10/25/2003 10:13:33 PM PDT by suzyq5558 (Terri is not in a coma!)
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To: ex-Texan
Oh i did read in the paper about all the waterford crystal the lottery commisoner bought for the staff and all those expensive meetings with some important group to help make the lottery more appealing to the peons to get em to play more . and then, when everyone found out about that it just disappeared .
i didnt hear about anyone getting in trouble for the misuse of the lottery funds or anything.
now if i had done something like that at my place of work i'd be fired and facing charges but not these guy's. it just P.O.'s me./rant off for now
8 posted on 10/25/2003 10:19:18 PM PDT by suzyq5558 (Terri is not in a coma!)
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To: suzyq5558
I remember those campaign promises too. Not many Oregonians can recall the "it will go to Oregon's schools" promises.

What I thought was most intriguing about that earlier article was it let slip information about the lottery's financing. It seems that the lottery takes in about $ 1.5 billion a year. Under contracts with the state, only about $ 380 billion goes directly to the State of Oregon. I was suggesting that the entire Lottery Commission be abolished and a new system set up to guarantee 33% of the total or $ 500 million be held in trust to fund Oregon Schools and improve higher education.

At the end of the first year alone, this would generate more than $ 400 million to fund Oregon schools. Having saved the schools in the state in one year, the state could look at other options. Wow! A financial miracle! And not need to raise taxes to save the schools!

Only God know how much waster and fraud is hidden by the books of the Oregon Lottery Commission. How much "economic aid" is actually resulting in "economic development?" DUH!!

Bet most of the millions is being funneled off in sweet heart deals for Democratic Party insiders who are making BIG promises but not delivering.

9 posted on 10/25/2003 11:04:14 PM PDT by ex-Texan (My tag line is broken !)
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To: ex-Texan
There are rumors that players are drifting away from Oregon Lottery Games because the Lottery Commission has been tinkering with the odds on video poker and bingo games.

Nevada realized a long time ago that people would not play gambling machines (slots, video poker, etc.) if they perceived the games to be rigged. Nowadays, every machine in operation in Nevada has a guaranteed payback -- somewhere in the 90% range, and the Nevada Gaming Commission verifies that these paybacks are being met. Why does Nevada take such an interest in maintaining integrity in all these gaming machines? As I said previously, if gamblers perceive these machines to be fixed then they won't play them, and that means less revenue for the state.

Oregon would have done well to pay attention to the Nevada gaming model. Now they've got a huge PR problem on their hands, much like Nevada did back when the mob ran the casinos.

10 posted on 10/26/2003 6:08:47 AM PST by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: randog
I agree with you 100%. The Oregonian is acting as a propagandist for the state and the OLC in my humble opinion. But payoffs are pretty dismal according to people I talk to regularly. One place I used to visit every week now looks half vacant on most days -- gone are the days when people would line up shove money recklessly into video poker games.

The state may have strangled the golden goose itself. Blame the DIMs. They have been in charge.

11 posted on 10/26/2003 6:26:00 AM PST by ex-Texan (My tag line is broken !)
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To: ex-Texan
a bit off the subject at hand here but the promises about lottery $ for the schools got me thinking about something. Iam a fourth generation oregonian,and there's not many of us left. before the enviro-nut jobs and people who moved in here that do not understand how the state worked ,then got jobs in state goverment and forced things down everyones throat,our schools were completly funded with timber$$$.

the state had no property tax to pay for school funding because timber reciepts paid all school funding for every school in the state.
then the knowitalls from back east moved in with thier fancy diplomas in enviromental BS and created a firestorm with the spotted owl BullSh-t and the oregon i used to know was screwed.
from that point on i watched my dad ,uncles,brother,friends lose their jobs,some their wives ,some took thier lives,most had to file bankruptcy,the state has been in a form of recsion ever since,it's never fully recoverd from the freaks who took over at the end of the 70's.
my parents live on prime timber property thats been in our family for over a hundred yr's and the hoops and crap they had to through just for a small harvest back in the 80's was enough to make you scream.
then we had eco freaks sneaking on our property trying to plant those damn owls to prevent my dad from logging,they spiked trees which would have severly injured or could have killed my dad or my brother if they were to have cut into one of those tree's.
my point is this i do not feel a lick of pain for school districts or the state over the funding problem for schools, not one bit.
i vote no on every tax increase that comes down and i will not be bullied by the state or put on a guilt trip by my local school district over all the money woes they seem to have .
they killed the goose that laid thier golden egg in the 80's and they all act like they didnt. i have kids in school so i get to hear about it a lot.
my kid's school is always whining about $shortages ,as i told the principle one day suck it up ,our household had too.
iam now done with my rant .i dont think ive ever talked so long about something but this really sticks in my craw.
12 posted on 10/26/2003 7:38:48 AM PST by suzyq5558 (Terri is not in a coma!)
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To: ex-Texan
Oh yeah ,lottery $$ were going to save our schools they said.
So everyone hit those poker machines play that video blackjack, what garbage!
IMHO the state made gambling addicts out of a lot folks,including my own mother for awhile intill dad found out and put the kibosh on it.
I can say that ive never once put a quarter into one those machines. but then iam a tightwad with a dollar and believe these games to be a utter waste of time and money.
state indorsed gambling, it leads to many problems in many homes around the state IMO.
If i want to gamble ive always gone to Reno or Vegas.
13 posted on 10/26/2003 7:55:31 AM PST by suzyq5558 (Terri is not in a coma!)
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To: ex-Texan
I refuse to play those idiotic video poker games or Bingo because I have never seen anybody actually winning.

What, as opposed to the other lottery games where everybody always wins? The state rigs it so you don't win--that's the point.

You play the lottery, you pay your stupid tax, the state is happy.

14 posted on 10/26/2003 8:00:46 AM PST by Viva Le Dissention
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