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"Terri's own mother is CHOOSING life for her daughter"

She doesn't have the legal right, her husband does.

"The parents of this woman want their "end table" (there's a thoughtful, compassionate description of a human being)"

Y'all had a cow when I used Veg...so you reap what you sow(that is biblical ya know).

"husband"

He is still her legal husband. Just because you don't happen to like him, does not lessen that fact one iota.

"The fact that she is given nutrition is not extraordinary, there are people who are ambulatory and alert that receive food and water in this manner.'

She isn't one of them, she isn't ambulatory.The continued attempts to link Terri Schiavo with quadrapaligics is a disingenuous one at the least.

"I see a woman who may not be living in the way most of us would choose, but a woman who loves the family around her, and loves (and clings) to life."

According to YOU.This isn't a matter for YOU to decide.

"Just because you have your own experiences, beliefs, wishes, etc. does not mean that you should foist them upon another living soul. Her "husband" says she "told" him her preference. Her closest friends (thats PLURAL) say she was adamant that "where there was life there is hope...." That was HER "catch-phrase" in regard to Karen Anne Quinlan."

Don't foist yours on me, her husband and the rest of the world, and I'll buy that.

I think it was her "friend" not "closest friends". I read that post too. And her "closest friends" are not her legal guardians in this case, so the point is moot.

"It is incomprehensible to me that so many posters on this board are willing to endorse and support the execution of Terri without ever once insisting that the judge at least try every option available to see if she can eat on her own"

She isn't being executed, that is the "catch phrase"(as you like to use the term) of the god squad who like to make Nazi remarks and call the hospice Auschwitz all to demonize people and institutions because they cannot win in a court.
And speaking of court, the Schindlers had every opportunity to prove these things in court and did a piss-poor job of it. Even the court appointed doctors said she would never recover.

"No wonder you can't marvel at the miracle which is life."

I love life, got a family of my own, but terri Schiavo died 13 years ago, and only man is keeping her body functioning.

"Instead of an end table, if you will at least put Terri on the level of a dehydrating mammal who needs assistance, maybe you can get the point."

Naw, she is certainly above the level of a common animal, but she is dead just the same and has been for 13 years.

That was a nice series of paragraphs, too bad you really didn't say much of anything but the same stuff....all emotion, but no legal facts.

It is no wonder why the Republican party will never truly be the power that it could be. You have republicans like me who like to look at the issues one at a time and make their own decisions about how we feel on them, and then there is the side you fall on that thinks everyone has to play off of one "master list" of issues and positions without dissent, and who doesn't agree on everything that has to do with religious topics must be "imposters" or "uncle toms" or "trolls".
Surely you guys are the least tolerant bunch of people I've ever seen, and you are calling yourselves christians.

It's amazing that you keep writing to others what you could more aptly apply to your own views.

Her mother may not have a "legal" right, but she should. Why? Because there needs to be a full investigation of the circumstances surrounding Terri's collapse 13 years ago. With so many facts coming to light regarding the status of their marriage (which evidently was failing), as well as his past pattern of abuses there is enough available to make a substantial investigation worthwhile. No, I don't like him. Nor do I feel he has her best interest at heart, as evidenced by almost every action he has taken in the last 13 years....from denying her last rites, to not allowing treatment, to placing her in a hospice like no other I've ever heard of, to keeping her parents away from her...

If you believe her vocal wishes should be given highest priority, then you might want to know that she wanted a divorce. Maybe the courts should allow that to happen.

I came into this discussion late, so I did not know you were making "end table" an acceptable compromise to the alternative "Veg..." Either way, in this instance, I'm not the one who "reaps what I sow," YOU are.

By the way, putting the word "husband" in quotes is my way of calling attention to the fact that he acts like one ONLY when it suits him. After all, he has a child by another woman and a baby on the way.

As for the feeding tubes, I am aware it is not a matter for me to decide, but it is also not a matter for YOU to decide. We are simply stating personal opinions and beliefs and I just can not wrap my mind around starving a person to death because you deem her life to be of no worth. YOU don't know if she dreams or has thoughts and feelings. I just know that as long as that possibility exists she deserves to have the opportunity to have sustenance. It is far from disingenuous, it is the TRUTH. Ever had an operation? Did they put you to sleep? Give you oxygen? Should they have turned it off because you could not carry on a viable conversation while asleep?

As for the "catch-phrase"---as long as there is life there is hope" being a moot point. It is NOT. It was the definitive statement she made to more than one friend about the case of Karen Quinlan. And is as valid (in fact MORE valid, because it was WITNESSED) than her "husbands" lame reason for taking away the feeding tube.

As for the fact that you think the parents made a poor case, maybe they did. When your flesh and blood, your CHILD changes from a vibrant, energetic, young woman to a state where you don't know what the next day will bring....your hands are tied by the "husbands" cold, insensitive directives (and quite possibly is motivated to make decisions based on a need to hide facts), and frankly you are in totally unfamiliar medical / legal territory, very few of us would be able to present a compelling case. This does NOT negate the fact that her parents deserve the option of paying for any means possible that might allow their daughter to progress.

Terri DID NOT die thirteen years ago. She is still alive. The fact that she is still alive seems to be an inconvenience to some and a great threat to others who want the "right to die." There would be no argument were she not still alive. What I said was that it is NO ONE'S RIGHT to decide her fate but HERS!!!!

As for my "emotional" response...well, I'm not going to apologize for reacting with emotion to an emotional issue. I could lay the entire argument out in logic, and you would attempt to shoot it down as well, because you (for whatever reason) can't understand that we each have a right to life when not brain dead. And she is NOT brain dead. Why you are threatened by this I do not know, but people with your view really bother me. Obviously , I do not buy into the "right to die" propaganda. If you want to terminate yourself, fine. Just stay away from my personal rights.

As for calling others "imposters," "Uncle Tom's," or "Trolls"....all YOUR words.... I can disagree with you without calling you names, ESPECIALLY names of that ilk. As for the GOP not being "truly the power it could be...." that's a sad, defeatist way of looking at conservatism. No political party will ever reach its full potential with mindsets like yours.

Finally, as for the persecution of Christians......bring it on. I am not intolerant, but am a soldier in God's army, and follow the Holy Bible as the inerrant word of God. Having said that, you will be in my prayers and May God Bless.