NEWS ABOUT TERRI SCHIAVO

Personal Email from a friend of Terri's | October 25, 2003 | Lorriane

[FreepinforTerri]

This is a post on Glenn Beck's Insider message forum... FYI:

HAMMESFAHR NEUROLOGICAL INSTITUTE. http://www.hni-online.com/

[Gringo1]

You can sit an discuss the issues of the day with a quadripelegic, they still have some fine motor skills, they are aware that they are here.Terri Schiavo does not have any of these things. Nice reach( a dang long reach given the circumstances)....but no cigar.

You guys still don't know the difference, you just want to roll out any old theory that matches your anger and hatred for anyone who dares disagree, and you still cannot argue the facts of the case, only the emotional angle of it.

[Gringo1]

"This is one of the ten passages of the Bible written in STONE directly by God Himself."

I have his hammer and chisel on sale on Ebay.
Bid now, bid often.

[slimer]

Petition to Ascroft and Justice Dept.

Keep up the fight!

[Gringo1]

"Mr. Gringo1 is one of God's creatures and I love him with the love of Jesus. Even he can be saved if he takes him as his (?) personal savior."

Oh gee, thanks. Jesus is my personal savior, I just do not happen to agree with the god squad on this one(which makes me a nazi-lover in their eyes, or a minion of satan at the least) I notice that you are brand-new here and maybe you don't know alot about how this board works, so I'm gonna cut you a little slack. But I get the feeling that you might be the kind of person who cleans his rifle too much while cursing about "abortionists" and the like and watching NASCAR.

[Chong]

Welcome to FR, friend.

[Chong]

BlessedBeGod;
I see that he never does, which is typical of the likes of him.

4Godsoloved..Hegave;
Thank you, 4Godsoloved..Hegave. It felt good to speak up, but evidently the whole thing went right over his head. Glad you enjoyed it.

Graymatter;
You are right of course; I need to pray for more patience.

[Gringo1]

"4Godsoloved..Hegave; Thank you, 4Godsoloved..Hegave. It felt good to speak up, but evidently the whole thing went right over his head. Glad you enjoyed it." Actually, your storytelling was low and outside for ball 1.

[PleaseNoMore]

Also, because what kind of person her husband is has no bearing in the legal issue at hand

I disagree. If her husband is a liar and has committed perjury under oath it has every bearing on his legal rights as a guardian. IF he has injured her causing her to be in her present condition it has every bearing on his legal rights in this case. Contrary to your apparent belief, spouses are not given "blank checks" when it comes to guardianship of their incapacitated spouses.

While it is a novel idea that spouses have the best intentions for their partner, that is not always the case. Until it can be determined that Michael schiavo has not:
1. Harmed Terri thus being the cause of her present condition
2. Has not committed perjury ( in either the Malpractice suit or his testimony stating that these are Terri's wishes )
3. Has exhausted all means of rehabilitation for Terri per his promise under oath to do so
4. Has conducted all transactions from her trust account in accordance with Fl. law
He should be removed as her guardian.

Not only is Michael schiavo bound by moral law to provide for this woman whom he swore to love and care for "in sickness and in health" he is bound by state law to PROPERLY oversee the care of her physically and of her trust account.

His actions and statements make his previous behavior and present intent suspect. The conflicting stories from her loved ones cast doubt on his claims that Terri wants to die.

[PleaseNoMore]

No proof that she can eat?

I ask you then, how did Terri take in fluids and nutrition PRIOR to her feeding tube being placed in her?

[Gringo1]

"I ask you then, how did Terri take in fluids and nutrition PRIOR to her feeding tube being placed in her?"


You tell me....how?

[Gringo1]

While it is a novel idea that spouses have the best intentions for their partner, that is not always the case. Until it can be determined that Michael schiavo has not:
1. Harmed Terri thus being the cause of her present condition
2. Has not committed perjury ( in either the Malpractice suit or his testimony stating that these are Terri's wishes )
3. Has exhausted all means of rehabilitation for Terri per his promise under oath to do so
4. Has conducted all transactions from her trust account in accordance with Fl. law
He should be removed as her guardian.

"Not only is Michael schiavo bound by moral law to provide for this woman whom he swore to love and care for "in sickness and in health"


1)Prove it in court, until you do, it is only blind accusation. 13 years have past, where were you back then?

2)Morality isn't a one-size-fits-all proposition, the morality of one person isn't the same as the morality of another. "Moral Law" as you define it may not apply in Mr. Schiavos case because he is free to believe what he wants to believe(this is America, right?), and not what you or anyone else sets as the standard of being "moral".If your statement was true, then the catholic church wouldn't have the "trouble" that it now faces(isn't the church supposed to be "moral" or even "more moral" than the rest of us?). And certainly comparing your own moral guideposts to Mr. Schiavo's is at least as biased a position as everyone screams about the liberal media having.

I appreciate you arguing the legal side of this argument, it has been a breath of fresh air. All that has to be done is to prove in court what has been raised. If it can be proven, then Mr. Schiavo should not be her legal guardian and perhaps her family should be, but until that time, I have to stay with my original opinion.

[2nd amendment mama]

I get the feeling that you might be the kind of person who cleans his rifle too much while cursing about "abortionists" and the like and watching NASCAR.

Let's see...you've already called me a "whacko religious zealot". Now you're anti-gun, pro-abortion, and anti NASCAR. I truly think you'd be more comfortable over at DU. This is a a site for Conservative opinions.

[Gringo1]

"I get the feeling that you might be the kind of person who cleans his rifle too much while cursing about "abortionists" and the like and watching NASCAR."

Don't flatter yourself, I was talking to Quikbeam.

I would refer you to many of my other posts if you absolutely need any reassurance of my conservatism. Just because I don't happen to agree with you on this particular subject does not change my conservatism one iota.
I don't follow ANYONES line word for word, I'm still free to have my own opinion on subjects as they come up, I don't feel the need to read off of anyone elses playbook, I have my own.

"This is a a site for Conservative opinions"......you left out the word "only" I am a conservative, just not one that has to toe anyone elses line.If left to you, this would be the "Not-so-free Republic" website.

"Now you're anti-gun, pro-abortion,"
I own enough guns to outfit a platoon of rangers, so your assumption is nothing more than an attempt to smear.And I've mentioned nothing in my posts that could ever lead anyone with one functiong synapse left to think that.

I'm also very much against abortion, but I also know that every time anyone has gone to court(including the Supreme Court) and argued that it unconstitutional on moral grounds, they have lost, so it remains legal.

"Let's see...you've already called me a "whacko religious zealot"."
You called me a creep first....you deserved a reply in-kind. "Let he is without sin cast the first stone' and all that.

[Gringo1]

I will admit that I don't like NASCAR, but liking NASCAR wasn't on the list of "official things you have to like to be a republican" last time I looked.

I don't like snow either, but I could still visit Canada if I wanted to(which I don't...too much snow).

[PleaseNoMore]

She must have been fertilized since she is a vegetable. /sarcasm

She certainly had to have some sort of nutrition for the first few years didn't she? Hmmmm...

[Gringo1]

Pony up some photos of her eating popcorn while watching the matrix on DVD and I'll buy into it.

[incindiary]

"You can sit an discuss the issues of the day with a quadripelegic, they still have some fine motor skills, they are aware that they are here.Terri Schiavo does not have any of these things. Nice reach( a dang long reach given the circumstances)....but no cigar.

YOU were the one who said because she couldn't feed herself, she is "dying"... I gave you examples of other people who can't feed themselves, and now you're changing what you said. So tell me, back up your position that Terri is 'dying'.