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To: Normally a Lurker
I agree that the individual should be the one to determine the quality of life he or she desires. Terri has not done so.

My nephew is here with me today. Chuck was in a severe motorcycle accident 18 years ago. He too was denied therapy for the first 10 years after the accident as his father deemed it too painful for him to endure. His father fought his mother and was temporarily awarded custody of him. His mom fought back, regained custody, and began therapy for him. For the first 14 years Chuck was on a feeding tube as he could not swallow. Today he eats with his good hand all by himself. He is paralyzed on one side still, can't speak ( grunts and moans ) and doesn't follow simple commands well ( we found that he has suffered a hearing loss as a result of his accident so we have to be very loud when we speak to him ). Because of his ongoing therapy the rigidity of his muscles from lack of movement has decreased. He said "mama" for the first time in 18 years last month.

I am glancing at him now sitting in his special chair ( my recliner, lol ) and he is sleeping so peacefully. I just changed him a bit ago as he is very heavy and I struggle with lifting him. After all he is a grown man of 6' tall and about 250 lbs, ( see, he eats very well. Too well IMO ). I do not see a man who lacks quality of life. I see a man whose life was forever changed by a horrible accident. I see a man who as an 18 year old boy found himself hooked up to life support machines. One who was pronounced brain dead and one whose mom made the agonizing decision to "pull the plug" after which he began breathing within seconds. I see a man who, although limited severely, laughs, cries, pinches my butt when I walk by to aggravate me, puckers up his lips for a kiss, drinks a beer ( oh the nerve of me ), and who loves to be talked to although he can't talk back. I see someone who has rubbed my belly when I was pregnant ( he absolutely loved to do this ) and who has held my children ( with my help ) when I placed them in his lap. He has "quality" of life. Before therapy he could do none of these things.

Once we told him that his Dr. said that he would always be a vegetable. I will never forget his response. When asked what he thought about that he simply stuck up his middle finger and laughed.

In the morning I will get him up, bathe him, put a fresh Depends on him and get him dressed for church services. Afterwards, we will go out to eat at one of his favorite restaurants and I even thought of taking him to see the movie Radio. I don't know if my back will hold out that long though. But, so much for him being brain dead, huh? BTW, he is still labeled as being in a persistant vegetative state. So much for him being a cabbage.

As for his quality of life, I ask him if he is happy. He smiles. He feels no pain. He is limited, sure. It doesn't matter to us that he may never find the cure for cancer or be a successful business person who rakes in millions. It doesn't matter that he may never father his own children. It isn't what he does that will matter in a hundred years from now. It is how we cared for him. It is the love that we gave him. The legacy of his family loving and caring for him although he is disabled and was once considered hopeless is what is going to be passed down to our future generations. My children are much better people because of having ben exposed to him. Our family is closer as a result of his circumstances. All of these things can be directly attributed to him.

225 posted on 10/25/2003 4:47:45 PM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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To: PleaseNoMore
I've learned so much from the posts about your nephew on various threads! It's a reminder of how much "quality" there is in a life that many people believe is totally worthless.

229 posted on 10/25/2003 5:54:17 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Celebrate my son's 7th birthday on October 31!)
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To: PleaseNoMore
The poster to whom you responded (NAL) has yet to address the fallacy I pointed out in its earlier postings, where it asserted that Terri is in misery, and we are mean to want to continue her misery, yet in other posts the same prick (a small nettle, of nuisance only) asserts that she is brain dead and should not be kept alive. I pointed out that to be in misery, the individual must be conscious of their existence and that the poster prick was basing its arguments upon a fallacy it had offered. The prick still hasn't addressed the logical fallacy it asserted, so why have so many wasted time exchanging with someone whose purpose is to irritate and aggrevate and never add anything to a discussion?
237 posted on 10/25/2003 7:59:56 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: PleaseNoMore
Thank you for sharing your story.

I wonder what gesture your nephew might give to FL Judges and Terri's so-called husband?
;)
253 posted on 10/26/2003 5:28:31 AM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (Get rid of activist judges who think they're part of the legislature.)
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To: PleaseNoMore
Once we told him that his Dr. said that he would always be a vegetable. I will never forget his response. When asked what he thought about that he simply stuck up his middle finger and laughed.

Next to a rail, a bucket of tar and a bag of feathers that has to be the most appropriate response I could think of to these "kill her and let God sort it out" demons.

288 posted on 10/27/2003 6:06:20 AM PST by TigersEye (Kill the liberal gods. Regime change in the courts. Impeach activist judges!)
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