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To: Sabertooth
What you call a myth about the Vatican helping Nazi war criminals escape justice has been very thoroughly documented.

The fact that hundreds of thousands of Jews were routinely killed off in European pograms throughout European history is also very well documented...killed by Christians by the way.

The fact the millions have died at the hands of so-called Christians, in the name of Jesus and God is hardly different then what Islam did itself.

All of which has no bearing whatsoever on the religious rights of ALL U.S. CITIZENS and the President's duty to recognize them equally.

160 posted on 10/25/2003 10:39:06 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson; Sabertooth
All of which has no bearing whatsoever on the religious rights of ALL U.S. CITIZENS and the President's duty to recognize them equally.
159 -jackson-




The President has no duty to 'recognize' the various religions of the world in any fashion. -- In fact, the 1st amendment specifically instructs our governments to refrain from respecting the establishments [the precepts/dogmas] of religions.

As Saber has argued, in a time of quasi-religious war, the president would be wise to confine himself to his constitutional duties, and leave religious remarks to the clergy.

181 posted on 10/25/2003 11:04:34 AM PDT by tpaine (I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but Arnie won, & politics as usual lost. Yo!)
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To: CWOJackson
The fact the millions have died at the hands of so-called Christians, in the name of Jesus and God is hardly different then what Islam did itself.

Between 100 - 200 million people have been killed or died under atheistic (communist) regimes. Millions have died at the hands of atheists, why aren't you denouncing atheism?

194 posted on 10/25/2003 11:25:36 AM PDT by incindiary
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To: CWOJackson
The fact the millions have died at the hands of so-called Christians, in the name of Jesus and God is hardly different then what Islam did itself.

You are missing a big difference here.

"Christians" may have killed in the name of Jesus and God, but did so in direct violation of Biblical teachings if this was their true motive and not merely an excuse or false teaching, which is easily disproved by Scripture.

Islam kills in the name of Allah in direct obedience to the direct commands and teachings of Mohammed and Islam.

Islam converts by the bloody sword of the soldier, not by the peaceful persuasion of the Sword of the Holy Spirit.

One side murders as a required part of their religion, the other murders in spite of their religion.

Big difference.

It is no accident that for 14 centuries Islam has soaked the world with "bloody borders".

234 posted on 10/25/2003 12:33:34 PM PDT by Gritty
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To: CWOJackson
The fact the millions have died at the hands of so-called Christians, in the name of Jesus and God is hardly different then what Islam did itself.

When monumentally ignorant and irrelevant statements like this one are made, it pretty much defines the author.

I do hope you have fun talking to yourself soon.
It's inevitable.

372 posted on 10/25/2003 3:44:20 PM PDT by Publius6961 (40% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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