Family, Friends Reflect on Schiavo

Newsday ^ | October 24, 2003, 10:33 PM EDT | ALLEN G. BREED

[nickcarraway]

ping

[sfRummygirl]

Oh, that article really puts her personality in place. She sounded like such a sweet kid.

[sfRummygirl]

"Where there's life, there's hope".

[maestro]

?.......What is this?......a television movie about Karen Ann Quinlan,.....

Investigation needed here,.......was this a theme that 'hubby' picked up on?

Very Interesting 'history'.....T.V.

IMHO

Maybe,nothing,....and I hope nothing!

IMHO

[syriacus]

http://www.eonline.com/Facts/Movies/0,60,50136,00.html

 In the Matter of Karen Ann Quinlan

Category: Drama
Director: Glenn Jordan
Cast: David Huffman, Brian Keith, Piper Laurie, Biff McGuire, Stephanie Zimbalist, David Spielberg

Running Time: 1 hr 40 mins
Country:
  United States
 
Summary:
A family encounters resistance when they try to let their comatose daughter die with dignity. Based on a true story
 
 

[syriacus]

In the Matter of Karen Ann Quinlan released 1977

[exDemMom]

Mrs. Schindler says Terri began complaining that Schiavo never wanted to go anywhere. When she would go visit her parents or a friend from work, Mrs. Schindler says, Schiavo would check the mileage on her car.

There's a hallmark of an abusive husband. Often, abusive husbands will not allow their wives to go anywhere. If the wife works, he knows her schedule to the minute, and God help her if she should deviate from it. I think I'd have more than a few qualms right now if I were Schiavo's girlfriend.

[nickcarraway]

I think I'd have more than a few qualms right now if I were Schiavo's girlfriend.

He probably checks to make sure she has no qualms.

[tessalu]

Many years ago, two women came before the Great King Solomon in the bible, and each woman claimed that the child in question was theirs, and wanted guardianship over it.
King Solomon said to just cut the baby in half, and to give each woman half of the baby.

But the real mother cried out, "Oh, do not kill the baby, just give it to the other mother", for she did not want to see her child dead, regardless of her loss. Of course, Solomon knew who was the real mother, and he gave the baby to her. No real mother would want their child to die!

That was just a few thousand years ago, and today we see the case of Terri Schiavo come before the courts here in the USA. To the court comes a man who claims to be Terri's husband. He has been wanting Terri to die for the longest time, and he lives in adulterous relationship with another woman, and has a child by her, and even another unborn. Michael Schiavo long ago stopped loving Terri. He claims to want what is best for his wife, and he calls it "death".

The real parents have petitioned for guardianship of Terri, but the courts have failed to recognize their position, which is simply one of love of a real parent for their child. This is something that is God-given.

Those in our courts are not as wise as King Solomon, and they have not allowed the real love to come to play in this case. Terri has been denied rehabiltation, even though she won a law suit that should have adquately provided her a chance to improve her life. Terri is now on medicare, with Michale leaving Terri as a burden to the state, while this so called "husband" has seemingly squandered almost all of the funds trying to kill her legally. Very little money is left.

I ask God in heaven to please provide us someone in the courts with the wisdom of King Solomon who cares about life and love. It is my greatest hope that in this case that life and love will prevail. I ask God to not allow evil and death to reign in our courts and in the life of Terri Schiavo, for we will all suffer for this.

Once I was comotose, and the doctor said that I would not live, but I did, and here I am. It was the patient love of my mother that pulled me through, and even when I could not talk, I knew her voice and trusted it. My doctor said that my mother was taking better care of me than any hospital ever could, and he allowed me to stay at home. May God be with Terri and her parents, and guide and protect them from all harm and the evil that surrounds them. May they be delivered from it.

[MarMema]

article

[stanz]

Michael Schiavo is a REGISTERED NURSE?

[cyn]

IMP Dr. Michael Baden, forensic pathogist, who finally got info from Terri's initial injuries -- in interview w/Greta Van Susteren ontherecord@foxnews.com -- pls pass this on. THANKS, FL engineer for transcription

Keep getting the info out -- to radio, newspaper, email lists, people on the street -- as honest people hear all the info, they realize this is wrong and injust.

Also -- a witness in Terri's room says that Terri was dressed inappropriately in warm clothes (TURTLENECK! ) w/blankets on her bed on Sat, Sun, and Mon. The world believes Terri is being kept comfortable, this is a 'peaceful death process'. The world needs to wake up -- and I hope this will help:

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1007658/posts?page=110

Transcript of Greta's "On the Record" - Schiavo segment - Friday 10-24-03

Greta: And now for a medical condition sparking national controversy, Terri Schiavo, of Florida, has been been in a vegetative state since collapsing in 1990, from what doctors say was a potassium imbalance, that stopped her heart.

Greta: But according to the Orlando Sentinel, Terri's family says a doctor who at their request, reviews Schiavo's medical records, found she was admitted to the emergency room, with a "rigid neck".

Greta: Forensic Pathologist, Dr. Michael Baden joins us from New York.

Dr.Baden: Hi,

Greta: Welcome, Dr. Baden,

Dr.Baden: Hi,

Greta: Dr. Baden, a potassium imbalance... lets first talk about... if you had a potassium deficiency, can that cause the condition that Terri Schiavo had?

Dr.Baden: Umm, CAN, but UNLIKELY.

Dr.Baden: Potassium is very interesting , its probably the most lethal poison we have when it is injected rapidly, and thats why its the poison that kills people in capital punisment by lethal injection.

Dr.Baden: And it stops the heart from beating properly. Too much of it. But also, too little of it, hypo-potassium, can also cause the heart to stop beating properly, and lead to lack of blood flow to the brain, and death of brain cells by lack of oxygen.

Greta: All right, would it, would it...

Dr.Baden: But thats very unusual Greta, extremely unusual.

Greta: A normal healthy woman, ahh, I assume would have no reason for instance, to take potassium supplements unless perhaps she was on a dieuretic, or had some other medication that would cause a potassium depetion. Is that right?

Dr.Baden: That is correct.

Greta: All right. Um, is there any explanation in your mind, and I realize you were not her treating physician, but why would a woman her age have a potassium, umm, imbalance?

Dr.Baden: Extremely unlikely..., unless she had certain kinds of diseases, which she doesn't have. She was in her 20's... the reason she is in the state she is in is because there was a period of time, maybe 5 minutes or 8 minutes when not enough oxygen was going to her brain. That can happen when the heart stops for 5 or 8 minutes, but she had a healthy heart from what we can see.

Dr.Baden: The other thing though...

Greta: (interrupting)

Dr.Baden: I'm sorry, Greta?

Greta: No, go ahead...

Dr.Baden: Your staff has provided me with a bone scan that you guys obtained... ummm, from her initial admission, in 1991 to the hospital. And that bone scan describes her as having a head injury.. thats why she's there..., thats why she's getting a bone scan. And a head injury can cause, umm, can lead to the vegetative state that Schiavo is in now,

Dr.Baden: ...and it does show evidence that there are OTHER injuries, other bone fractures, that are in the healing stage. So thats...

Greta: Alright, alright, let me back up for a second... head injuries... Could she have had, umm, could she have passed out from a potassium imbalance, causing you know, falling, hitting her head, head injury. Is that what you're talking about... or are you suggesting some sort of pre-existing injury to her passing out...

Dr.Baden: Something... something totally different. That its extremely rare, for a 20-year old to have a cardiac arrest, umm, from low potassium, who has no other diseases.

Dr.Baden: So the other issue, is could it have been due to some other cause? which is raised by the family, HAS to be looked at.

Greta: Alright, in the 20 seconds we have left... other injuries... bone injuries... what does that suggest to you?

Dr.Baden: That... some kind of trauma. The trauma could be from an auto accident, the trauma could be from a fall, OR the trauma could be from some kind of a BEATING that she obtained from somebody, somewhere.

Dr.Baden: Umm, its something that SHOULD have been investigated in 1991, when these findings were, ahh... found...

Greta: ...were fresh.

Dr.Baden: yes, And maybe they were. Maybe they were investigated by the police at that time.

Greta: Alright, thats it, Michael Baden, thank you

Dr.Baden: Thank you.

110 posted on 10/24/2003 10:30 PM PDT by FL_engineer (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)

[cyn]

Terri needs an advocate. She needs to be out of that hellish hospice YESTERDAY, under care of those who do NOT want her dead. I still fear for her life, am concerned how she is being treated, given the above info about warm clothes.

There is a Judge Sexton in Tampa -- a guardianship judge who receives gov't grants to visit wards of the state, those under guardianship -- that is her job, she has the $$, seems to have a good reputation. She understands the laws of the state designed to protect the disabled and may be in a position to investigate this further.

ACLJ -- any more on them getting into this? PLS pass these questions on thanks. prayers and work continue for Terri.

[syriacus]

Thanks, cyn and FL_engineer. I'm glad to have the chance to read the transcript.


A "casual" comment, by a sensitive woman in her twenties, made after watching a three-handkerchief movie, should not be binding on life and death decisions.

[maestro]

cyn......thanks for# 13............this whole thread is very interesting!!

FYI.......ping......Archieves

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you so much for the information!

[aristeides]

If he's a nurse, it certainly could explain favored treatment by the medical establishment.

[stanz]

I wouldn't want him near me or my loved ones.

[nmh]

"In contrast to Meyer's recollection, her husband, Michael Schiavo, and members of his family have said Terri told them she would not want to be kept alive artificially if she were incapable of getting better."

Yeah always HIS family ... . Her husband sounds like a rel jerk.