Posted on 10/24/2003 2:57:42 PM PDT by Willie Green
That socialist mindset that is inflicted on us by the media has gotten under your skin.
Corporations ARE the American people. There is no such thing as "corporate power" that is different from the power of the people. And there are no profits of corporations that do not benefit real people.
So, if you want to discuss patriotism --- fine. But deal with people, not the faceless "corporations," a boogeyman thrown at you by the media.
As for the problems -- I see them. The question is who is responsible and what to do about that. It is not the corporate managers --- they are hired labor just like the janitors (only more talented and therefore better paid). It is not the government: we are responsible for making ourselved marketable.
And, frankly, there is no big problem so far: our unemployment is at 6.1% considered close to minimal possible until recently.
The author of this article is either ignorant or he's being deliberately disingenuous. Believe it or not, the most serious economic problem faced by New York City -- despite its 8.6% unemployment rate -- is a labor shortage.
It never is.
All you do is stalk people and smear them with personal attacks.
Take a hike, troll.
I disagree. Small businesses, owned by private Americans are the people. Small businesses that rely on local people to work in their businesses. Large corporation, that move their entire corporations off shore, and lay off the real Americans down on the street, ARE NOT the American people.
Corporations ARE the American people sounds real good, nice sound bite even. But just try telling this to all those left behind in the towns that once prospered.....
They'd probably chase you out of town.....
No, corporations that rely on cheap third word labor are NOT the American people. They are however, turning a big profits by selling the Americans products produced by those in foreign lands. Like from Communist China......
There will come a time when the majority of Americans wont even be able to afford those products, as they will be lucky to have a job, that paid half of what they use to make...
It's happening before your eyes.....
JH: I disagree. I respect your opinion, but this is not a matter of opinion; it's a fact.
Small businesses, owned by private Americans are the people. That may be a natural misunderstanding, but a misunderstanding nonetheless. Most American corporation, especially the spooky big ones that you think about when talking about their "power" are owned by millions of Americans. This includes AT&T, GM, GE, etc.
In terms of your patriotism, it does not matter whether you own a big house or a small one, correct? The same is here: an American that owns a McDonald's franchise own a BIG chink of his bisiness, whereas a widow with 200 shares of IBM stock owns a SMALL chunk of that business. But it is the same ownership, and it is the same Americans.
Small businesses hire employees, and so do big ones, only more of them. A restaurant owner often hires a manager. So does IBM. There is no difference. Large corporation, that move their entire corporations off shore, and lay off the real Americans down on the street, ARE NOT the American people.
By your logic, any American that bought a foreing business is a traitor? You know full well that this is silly -- in fact unAmerican, because it's not my business to dictate to you where to invest your money.
YOu may not have thought about this from the following angle, but it may help. Suppose a corporation folds today: all assets are sold, and the money is returned to investors. You would not have a problem with that, right? There is nothing unAmerican about that: you simply feel that the risks are not worth it and close your business. A trip to the mall will reveal that this happens very often: stores go out of business, seldom through bancruptcy. About 500,000 businesses are formed each year, and almost as many go out of business --- again, not necessarily through bancruptcy.
So now the company is closed, and you got your money back. A year alter you find an investment opportunity in Singapore. Thre is nothing unAmerican if you put your money there, right? People do that all the time -- it's part of our freedoms, as American as the apple pie.
The only difference with off-shoring is that a year does not pass between the two events: they happen simultaneously. There is nothing unAmerican about either part of it, as you have seen.
You have jno obligation to pay my salary. You employ me for as long as I am worth my keep and let go when that is no longer true. Demanding otherwise is socialist and has nothing to do with partiotism, whether you realize it or not.
In general, you see what can be helpful: don't stop at abstract notions like "corporations," "patriotism," etc. --- get it down to real people: it is they who are the workers, the managers, the owners. See who benefits from what, who owes what to whom. You remarks suggest that you have jumpted to very strong conclusions without fully understanding these aspects.
He don't have to post anything on this corner of the internet to anger the people against the corportations moving off shore, taking the jobs with them, only to be given to those that work for near nothing...
Willie wont affect the anger against the institutions of capitalism by posting articles here. No, they are doing a damn good job of that all by themselves.....
Yeah and the landscape is littered with millions of those investors that lost their butts, they're retirements, etc....
Don't worry about Willie, there is enough anger to go around. Trust me.....
Well, that alone reveals you as a socialist. And your ignorance as well.
Arrogance of ignorance, as Dostoyevky referred to it.
I shall not reply to you on this thread any further. Enjoy your blissful anger.
LOL! Thanks for the humor. I've been called many things, but never a socialist. Hehehe
But hey, you keep supporting this epic, wholesale sell off of American jobs to places like Communist China. Free trade indeed.
You stating this is the American way is really humorous. I can only laugh as I still have my job.
Take care Quark.....
Speak English? well that may be what they call it but english... no. And their level of expertise $u(&s. They can not identify the most basic issues with a computer that are commonly mistaken for failed hardware componets... low system resources.
So, dear reader, if you find yourself maddened by the inarticulate, difficult to understand tech on the telephone, perhaps it's time we made our voices heard. If you pick up your telephone and dial an out-of-state number and the voice on the other end of the telephone is speaking in an almost unintelligible accent from India or some other foreign country, you can rest assured your phone call was re-directed outside of the United States.
The best tactic is if you get a mush-mouth (tech lingo for a punk in India) which you will if you call any of the major PC manufacturer OEM support... let them fumble and then demand a supervisor. Tell them you want someone that REALLY does know how to identify the issue with the computer and that you also want someone that REALLY does speak English, not engrish.
TLI
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