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To: risk
Awesome Risk...Awesome.

Kinda like an x-file episode were Mulder and Scully find Cigarette mans stubs in the ashtray : )

Fabian...Jacksonian...Neocon.
We see the names thrown around..they are derided as foolish..yet..they are think tank reality in their time periods..evolving to become what..today..and,
how many line up on each side of the 50 yard line.

Low scale conflicts..
On Charlie Rose Late night a few weeks ago...Kissinger.
Charlie asks H.K. about his new book.
Kissinger waxes eloquent.
[Put on your best gravel tone voice impersonation].
"What was imperative in the Yom Kippur war and Arab / Israeli conflict was too demonstrate to the Arabs the *Futility of dependence on Soviet weapon systems"!

Can we at least surmise that this type of thinking is now at work..on a larger scale..ie.."Lets show the world the futility of not choosing the American Corporate geostrategic model".

Will they allow low intensity conflicts to run..to teach the Arab that they are fragmented..and have nothing aside from the oil.
When Euro is pushed on the table..the U.S. can simply burn the game players economy for choosing Euro over U.S. dollar.
Saudi's...The U.S. will withdraw..allow them to secure things their way..as long as the Saudi Kingdom stays connected to the U.S. Dollar.

Russia is swimming in cash now..the old passions to have others come to Moscow to supplicate for ..weapons..geostrategic support.
Putin and Moscow want this to return..but can they find buyers for toys..like SU 30 MKI..new refurbished MBT's..navy export cruise missiles?.

Does Pootey get a "Piece of the action"?

Big red circles around Syria..Iran and Pakistan for 2004.

What does Bush need to get re-elected?
Would Rumsfeld want to be part of that..seeing that He is already getting hungout to dry..with Coleen Powell..and Condi smiling in the wings.
CFR types taking each other aside..."I told you so"!

media momentum..your question concerning Russia and China?

Both have been kinda quiet since the U.N. sanctions ended..their hope to regain oil concessions in West Qurna in south Iraq..Lukoils former holdings.

Music stops....no chair for France?
Russia and China like their chairs..?

I believe ..at least in the interem..if Russia and China are not satisfied..we will certainly hear of it in the media....they will be the ones to see uncomfortable issues remian into 2004 that hurt the Republicans overseas and at home.

Iran and N.K. seem quiet for now..looks like a senior brokers had a nice dinner..and went away happy.
at least for a while : )

81 posted on 10/26/2003 10:04:45 PM PST by Light Speed
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To: Light Speed; ALOHA RONNIE
>>>> Kinda like an x-file episode...

A collection of leads I found this weekend, not well-substantiated yet:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/862716/posts?page=29#29

>>>> "Lets show the world the futility of not choosing the American Corporate geostrategic model".

Indeed, great analogy. But I think it's more than mere corporatism; we're not just battling for markets with a long leash and a deep public feed bowl are a manifestation of a free society's desire to cooperate in building bigger and better things.

I don't think we're at war to defend Enron-like opportunities and interests, but rather to defend the right to try new and risky business models on an international stage. As well as freedom of religion, freedom of intellect, and so forth.

>>>> as the Saudi Kingdom stays connected to the U.S. Dollar.

I'm not confident that they will survive the coming al Qaeda-driven revolution.

>>>> Putin and Moscow want this to return..but can they find buyers for toys..like SU 30 MKI..new refurbished MBT's..navy export cruise missiles?

I think it's clear now that the WMD of choice is propaganda. It's even here on FR. You don't have to look far to find enemies of Pax Americana. I think we were wrong to assume that Communism was the only threat.

The real threat is anti-freedom urges, a kind of recidivism toward the primitive. States like Russia and China are trying to harness this to throw us off balance. They have no illusions of idealism, no brilliant founding fathers, no Magna Carta, no special craving for furthering the cause of liberty. They just want power to offset ours, and they're motivated to find weakness in our own system of democracy (press, education, religious tolerance, judicial precision) to fight us using our own rules.

>>>> they will be the ones to see uncomfortable issues remian into 2004 that hurt the Republicans overseas and at home.

Indeed. And they may cooperate in that endeavor. We as defenders of the free world must root out their influence and shine the spotlight of western media on it. And we need to get the word out to the third world that they are being used as pawns.

>>>> Iran and N.K. seem quiet for now..looks like a senior brokers had a nice dinner..and went away happy.

Whatever happened, I don't expect it to stay quiet for long.
83 posted on 10/26/2003 10:37:36 PM PST by risk
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