[NeoCaveman]

But I still can't see denying people many of these things simply because they are gay and we want to see them suffer for it.

Valid point. I know this, I wouldn't want to be judged for "muddying the waters" and hence encouraging someone to behave in such a way that they damn themself.

[Jorge]

I know this, I wouldn't want to be judged for "muddying the waters" and hence encouraging someone to behave in such a way that they damn themself.

That is an excellent point

But I believe we have a much better chance of promoting our moral convictions if we show compassion for others.

Nobody is going to listen to us if they perceive us as mean-spirited and hateful.