[JNB]

As far as I know, Torie isint a Catholic, at least based the posts I have read. Again if a non Catholic holds views that are not in line with chruch teachings, thats one thing, it is quite another when ordained clergy hold views that are out of line with chruch teaching, and that is why I said in a thread a few days ago, unless I know a parish is solidly orthodox, then I am not so sure that technically converting to the church will in reality bring people closer to the faith, especially in the typical suburban mega-parish' that push "peace & justice", mercy(without sacrafice).

PS To others who say I am a SSPXer, how many SSPXers attend a Novus Ordo mostly in English?

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

I think Torie is an agnostic IIRC.

JNB, I haven't read this entire thread but I know you are not SSPX. You've stated your position clearly on other threads. I cannot speak for the SSPX but I strongly doubt any of them attend a N.O. if they have an alternative.