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Affidavit of Carla Iyer, nurse who cared for Terri Schiavo from April 1995 to July 1996
Terri's Fight (website established on Terri's behalf by her parents and that side of the family) ^ | August 29, 2003 | Carla Iyer

Posted on 10/23/2003 5:58:54 PM PDT by First_Salute

AFFIDAVIT
_________

STATE OF FLORIDA )
COUNTY OF PINELLAS )

BEFORE ME the undersigned authority personally appeared CARLA
SAUER IYER, R.N., who being first duly sworn, deposes and says:

1. My name is Carla Sauer Iyer. I am over the age of eighteen and make
this statement of my own personal knowledge.

2. I am a registered nurse in the State of Florida, having been licensed
continuously in Florida from 1997 to the present. Prior to that I was a
Licensed Practical Nurse for about four years.

3. I was employed at Palm Garden of Largo Convalescent Center in
Largo, Florida from April 1995 to July 1996, while Terri Schiavo
was a patient there.

4. It was clear to me at Palm Gardens that all decisions regarding Terri
Schiavo were made by Michael Schiavo, with no allowance made for
any discussion, debate or normal professional judgment. My initial
training there consisted solely of the instruction "Do what Michael
Schiavo tells you or you will be terminated." This struck me as
extremely odd.

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5. I was very disturbed by the decision making protocol, as no allowance
whatsoever was made for professional responsibility. The atmosphere
throughout the facility was dominated by Mr. Schiavo's intimidation.
Everyone there, with the exception of several people who seemed to be
close to Michael, was intimidated by him. Michael Schiavo always
had an overbearing attitude, yelling numerous times such things as
"This is my order and you're going to follow it." He is very large and
uses menacing body language, such as standing too close to you,
getting right in your face and practically shouting.

6. To the best of my recollection, rehabilitation had been ordered for
Terri, but I never saw any being done or had any reason at all to
believe that there was ever any rehab of Terri done at Palm Gardens
while I was there. I became concerned because Michael wanted
nothing done for Terri at all, no antibiotics, no tests, no range of
motion therapy, no stimulation, no nothing. Michael said again and
again that Terri should NOT get any rehab, that there should be no
range of motion whatsoever, or anything else. I and a CNA named
Roxy would give Terri range of motion anyway. One time I put a
wash cloth in Terri's hand to keep her fingers from curling together,

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and Michael saw it and made me take it out, saying that was therapy.

7. Terri's medical condition was systematically distorted and
misrepresented by Michael. When I worked with her, she was alert
and oriented. Terri spoke on a regular basis while in my presence,
saying such things as "mommy," and "help me." "Help me" was, in
fact, one of her most frequent utterances. I heard her say it hundreds
of times. Terri would try to say the word "pain" when she was in
discomfort, but it came out more like "pay." She didn't say the "n"
sound very well. During her menses she would indicate her discomfort
by saying "pay" and moving her arms toward her lower abdominal
area. Other ways that she would indicate that she was in pain included
pursing her lips, grimacing, thrashing in bed, curling her toes or
moving her legs around. She would let you know when she had a
bowel movement by flipping up the covers and pulling on her diaper
and scooted in bed on her bottom.

8. When I came into her room and said "Hi, Terri", she would always
recognize my voice and her name, and would turn her head all the way
toward me, saying "Haaaiiiii" sort of, as she did. I recognized this as a
"hi", which is very close to what it sounded like, the whole sound

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being only a second or two long. When I told her humrous stories
about my life or something I read in the paper, Terri would chuckle,
sometimes more a giggle or laugh. She would move her whole body,
upper and lower. Her legs would sometimes be off the bed, and need
to be repositioned. I made numerous entries into the nursing notes in
her chart, stating verbatim what she said and her various behaviors, but
by my next on-duty shift, the notes would be deleted from her chart.
Every time I made a positive entry about any responsiveness of Terri's,
someone would remove it after my shift ended. Michael always
demanded to see her chart as soon as he arrived, and would take it in
her room with him. I documented Terri's rehab potential well,
writing whole pages about Terri's responsiveness, but they would
always be deleted by the next time I saw her chart. The reason I wrote
so much was that everybody else seemed to be afraid to make positive
entries for fear of their jobs, but I felt very strongly that a nurses job
was to accurately record everything we see and hear that bears on a
patients condition and their family. I upheld the Nurses Practice Act,
and if it cost me my job, I was willing to accept that.

9. Throughout my time at Palm Gardens, Michael Schiavo was focused

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on Terri's death. Michael would say "When is she going to die?,"
"Has she died yet?" and "When is that bitch gonna die?" These
statements were common knowledge at Palm Gardens, as he would
make them casually in passing, without regard even for who he was
talking to, as long as it was a staff member. Other statements which I
recall him making include "Can't anything be done to accelerate her
death - won't she ever die?" When she wouldn't die, Michael would
be furious. Michael was also adamant that the family should not be
given information. He made numerous statements such as "Make sure
the parents aren't contacted." I recorded Michael's statements word
for word in Terri's chart, but these entries were also deleted after the
end of my shift. Standing orders were that the family wasn't to be
contacted, in fact, there was a large sign in the front of her chart that
said under no circumstances was her family to be called, call Michael
immediately, but I would call them, anyway, because I thought they
should know about their daughter.

10. Any time Terri would be sick, like with a UTI or fluid buildup in her
lungs, colds, or pneumonia, Michael would be visibly excited, thrilled
even, hoping that she would die. He would say something like,

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"Hallelujah! You've made my day!" He would call me, as I was the
nurse supervisor on the floor, and ask for every little detail about her
temperature, blood pressure, etc., and would call back frequently
asking if she was dead yet. He would blurt out "I'm going to be rich!"
and would talk about all the things he would buy when Terri died,
which included a new car, a new boat, and going to Europe, among
other things.

11. When Michael visited Terri, he always came alone and always had the
door closed and locked while he was with Terri. He would typically
be there about twenty minutes or so. When he left Terri would be
trembling, crying hysterically, and would be very pale and have cold
sweats. It looked to me like Terri was having a hypoglycemic reaction,
so I'd check her blood sugar. The glucometer reading would be so low
it was below the range where it would register an actual number
reading. I would put dextrose in Terri's mouth to counteract it. This
happened about five times on my shift, as I recall. Normally Terri's
blood sugar levels were very stable due to the uniformity of her diet
through tube feeding. It is medically possible that Michael injected
Terri with Regular insulin, which is very fast acting, but I don't have

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any way of knowing for sure.

12. The longer I was employed at Palm Gardens the more concerned I
became about patient care, both relating to Terri Schiavo, for the
reasons I've said, and other patients, too. There was an LPN named
Carolyn Adams, known as "Andy" Adams who was a particular
concern. An unusual number of patients seemed to die on her shift,
but she was completely unconcerned, making statements such as
"They are old - let them die." I couldn't believe her attitude or the fact
that it didn't seem to attract any attention. She made many comments
about Terri being a waste of money, that she should die. She said it
was costing Michael a lot of money to keep her alive, and that he
complained about it constantly (I heard him complain about it all the
time, too.) Both Michael and Adams said that she would be worth
more to him if she were dead. I ultimately called the police relative to
this situation, and was terminated the next day. Other reasons were
cited, but I was convinced it was because of my "rocking the boat."

13. Ms. Adams was one of the people who did not seem to be intimidated
by Michael. In fact, they seemed to be very close, and Adams would
do whatever Michael told her. Michael sometimes called Adams at

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night and spoke at length. I was not able to hear the content of these
phone calls, but I knew it was him talking to her because she would
tell me afterward and relay orders from him.

14. I have contacted the Schindler family because I just couldn't stand by
and let Terri die without the truth being known.

FURTHER AFFIANT SAYETH NAUGHT.

<signed>
CARLA SAUER IYER, R.N.

The foregoing instrument was acknowledged before me this 29 day of August,
2003, by CARLA SAUER IYER, R.N., who produced her Florida's driver's license
as identification, and who did take an oath.

<signed Patricia J. Anderson>
Notary Public

My commission expires
<Notary seal of Patricia J. Anderson>

 


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: abortion; livingwill; michaelschiavo; nursinghome; righttodie; righttolife; schindler; terrischiavo
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
BTW, perjury is a federal offense, notwithstanding anything Bill Clinton may have gotten away with. She could (and would) be fined and thrown in prison if her story was proved false. All anyone has to do is prove one statement false and the whole thing would be thrown out.

I wish she had kept copies of the charts that had been erased. That would be quite interesting. But few people think about that in the course of their job.
121 posted on 10/23/2003 9:15:36 PM PDT by Gophack
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To: floriduh voter; Salvation; Saundra Duffy; shhrubbery!; stanz; sweetliberty; Tax-chick; tbpiper; ...
I sent a note to Laura, but it would be good if a few hundred others did it also.

Laura Ingraham's Email

122 posted on 10/23/2003 9:16:28 PM PDT by editor-surveyor ( . Best policy RE: Environmentalists, - ZERO TOLERANCE !!)
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To: floriduh voter
You forgot to add, "my brothers keeper" as well.
123 posted on 10/23/2003 9:17:39 PM PDT by texaslil
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To: jwalsh07; FatherOfLiberty; Piltdown_Woman; JeanS; RJayneJ
Previous lawsuit of September 22, 2002 :
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
MIDDLE DISTRICT OF FLORIDA
TAMPA DIVISION
Civil Action No.: 8:03-CV-1860-T-26-TGW



THERESA MARIE SCHINDLER
SCHIAVO, Incapacitated, by her
Parents and Next Friends, ROBERT
and MARY SCHINDLER,

[snip]

12. In or about February, 1993, Schiavo received the medical malpractice
money, and approximately $750,000 was put into the guardianship fund for
Terri's care.

13. Shortly afterward, Schiavo placed a "Do Not Resuscitate" order in Terri's
medical chart. A few months later, in or about June, 1993, Schiavo directed
Terri's caregivers to withhold antibiotic treatment for an infection she had
developed, in the expectation that she would die from the resulting sepsis,
which expectation Schiavo stated under oath in a deposition.

14. In 1995, Schiavo began living with a woman whom he now publicly
describes as his "fiancee" and with whom he had a child in September, 2002
and with whom he is expecting his second child.

15. From Fall, 1991, and continuing up until the present day, Schiavo has
denied any and all attempts at meaningful rehabilitative therapy for Terri

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and, in addition, has denied basic services such as regular teeth cleaning and
gynecological care. He has placed and continues to place unreasonable
restrictions on visitation by others with Terri, including her priest. He
opposed speech therapy that has the aim of weaning her off the G-tube back
onto nutrition by mouth, even though such weaning is a common
therapeutic accomplishment, and Schiavo knows Terri is a good candidate
for such weaning.

16. For the past decade, Schiavo has been so intent on preventing any
improvement in Terri's condition that he has threatened her caregivers with
loss of their jobs if they disobeyed his orders that no rehabilitative help be
given to Terri. Frequently, he expressed frustration that Terri had not died.
During this period, Terri's caregivers report that Terri was saying "Help
me" and "mommy" on a routine basis.

17. Finally, in May, 1998, Schiavo filed his Petition to Discontinue Artificial
Life Support and to Appoint Guardian Ad Litem (hereinafter "the
Petition"), seeking the Court's permission to remove Terri's G-tube.
Schiavo did not state his express desire to withhold food and water by
mouth from Terri, nor did he seek the Court's permission to do so. He did
state that it is "highly likely" that he will re-marry upon Terri's death,

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however. The Petition was brought pursuant to Chapter 765 of the Florida
Statutes, concerning advance directives.

18. At the time of the filing of the Petition, approximately $718,000 was in
Terri's guardianship fund for her care.

19. Although initially the Court did appoint a guardian ad litem for Terri and
the guardian ad litem filed a written report recommending denial of the
Petition, the Court removed the guardian ad litem upon Schiavo's
insistence, and no successor guardian ad litem has ever been appointed.

20. In January, 2000, the Petition was tried to Hon. George W. Greer. No
attorney, no guardian ad litem, or any other independent voice represented
Terri at this trial. At this trial, Schiavo remembered, for the first time, that
Terri had told him sometime during the 1980s that she would not want to
survive on "anything artificial."


21. In February, 2000, Judge Greer granted the Petition, even though Terri left
no written advance directive nor was even alleged to have said she wanted
no rehabilitation or food and water by mouth in the event of her incapacity.

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I am given to understand that as a matter of law, Terri would have to have not only stated that she did "not want to live that way," she would also have had to state that she did not wish to be given food nor water in the event of her incapacity.

 

124 posted on 10/23/2003 9:17:42 PM PDT by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
My daughter worked for a local Nursing Home. She reported to her supervisor that a patient reported to her that another CNA had hit him and was always very rough with him. When she came back after her 2 days off she was told she had been taken off of full time and put on per diem. The other CNA had been there several years and I guess they made a choice. She called the state hotline but has never heard any more.

She starts a job at a different nursing home on Friday, do you think she will be so quick to report abuse again?? Would you??
125 posted on 10/23/2003 9:18:49 PM PDT by Clintons Are White Trash (Helen Thomas, Molly Ivins, Maureen Dowd - The Axis of Ugly)
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To: First_Salute
Informative thread. Got some missing pieces. Thanks.
126 posted on 10/23/2003 9:21:12 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: RLK
All of this, that you say, could have happened, and it could have happened in a vacuum, but there has to be an investigation. If, as is told in the chronicles of this story, has a hint of being true. The there is a huge question of criminal liability and conspiracy. This is attempted murder, if, and only IF it is true!

Without and investigation, we don't know any of this yet. But, it is ripe for the investigation. If true, I want all involved to pay with prison time.

127 posted on 10/23/2003 9:21:15 PM PDT by timydnuc (qFR)
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To: editor-surveyor
Bump!
128 posted on 10/23/2003 9:21:58 PM PDT by windchime
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To: jwalsh07
Can you post the comments? The link shows "blocked".
130 posted on 10/23/2003 9:25:08 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: FreedomMan_CA
You forgot to look at the dates. - It came to light many times and nobody will do anything about it. The death culture is in control.
131 posted on 10/23/2003 9:25:48 PM PDT by editor-surveyor ( . Best policy RE: Environmentalists, - ZERO TOLERANCE !!)
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To: GOPJ; First_Salute
All affadavits and pertinent parts of the feral suit have been copied longhand and psoted on this thread by First Salute who deserves a salute for doing it all.
132 posted on 10/23/2003 9:27:34 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: editor-surveyor
Done. Anybody got an email address for Ann Coulter? She is a very outspoken advocate of a culture of life, not death and she is a Constitutional attorney. I would love to see her write about this. If anybody could take Felos down a couple of pegs, it's Ann.
133 posted on 10/23/2003 9:28:22 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: editor-surveyor
And let's not forget that Terri's alleged wish to not be kept on tubes was also late revealed. What do these nurses have to gain from this? Compare to what Michael Schiavo has to gain from this?
134 posted on 10/23/2003 9:29:55 PM PDT by The Red Zone
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To: timydnuc
Without and investigation, we don't know any of this yet. But, it is ripe for the investigation. If true, I want all involved to pay with prison time.

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Absolutely, and I don't want to see her killed in the meantime. Her parents, who seem to have her best interest at heart, should be given full guadianship and Mike Shicaro set free. However, he wants something else under some guise. I suspect the man is protecting himself from something that will come out if she regains functional speech. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. However, letting parents have complete control and guardianship would seem to be a benign act that would benefit everyone.

135 posted on 10/23/2003 9:30:44 PM PDT by RLK
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To: sweetliberty
Here it is:

Ann Coulter's Email

Good thinking!

137 posted on 10/23/2003 9:32:16 PM PDT by editor-surveyor ( . Best policy RE: Environmentalists, - ZERO TOLERANCE !!)
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To: FreedomMan_CA
"Not as long as I wear my trusty tinfoil hat it isn't!"

Well then you must have misplaced it lately!

138 posted on 10/23/2003 9:33:45 PM PDT by editor-surveyor ( . Best policy RE: Environmentalists, - ZERO TOLERANCE !!)
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To: The Red Zone
And let's not forget that Terri's alleged wish to not be kept on tubes was also late revealed.

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Not late revealed, late concocted of convenience and necessity.

139 posted on 10/23/2003 9:33:45 PM PDT by RLK
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To: libravoter
I believe he has very little self control.

Angry people often say more than they should.
140 posted on 10/23/2003 9:35:36 PM PDT by Politicalmom
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