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Cosmologists say universe leaves them in the dark
The News-Sentinel (Fort Wayne) ^ | 10/20/03 | Tom Siegfried (Dallas Morning News)

Posted on 10/23/2003 1:56:32 PM PDT by LibWhacker

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To: RightWhale
Strangely, I have never had a problem with the idea of negative gravity.

I have absolutely no problem with adding a new fundamental force to the list. I do have a problem calling it dark energy, b/c, for instance, the units aren't even the same: energy is measured in Joules, and force is measured in Newtons.

21 posted on 10/24/2003 2:10:28 PM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee (const tag& constTagPassedByReference)
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It's still handy to think of gravity as a force, but it is the result of a field. The field is a potential energy field, abbreviated as just energy. Such fields seem to surround material objects. It might be that what they are calling dark energy is nothing more than the total effect of alternate positive and negative gradient potential energy fields combined. The totality would be apparent only over intergalactic distances or over galactic cluster distances. Locally it would be just ordinary gravity and those inside the field couldn't tell if it were positive or negative gravity.
22 posted on 10/24/2003 2:17:21 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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a space list ping?
23 posted on 08/21/2004 8:17:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: LibWhacker

42. Always has been....always will.


24 posted on 08/21/2004 8:21:36 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I Just fell off the boat!! Kerry I need you! Uh..nevermind, it's only hip deep...right now.)
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To: LibWhacker

The universe is infinitely un-understandable.


25 posted on 08/21/2004 8:43:37 PM PDT by TheLion
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26 posted on 03/29/2010 6:50:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: LibWhacker

Though one would think an observer on the far side of the universe would see us expanding at near light speed as well, which to us however is clearly not the case. Thus it would seem that some sort of relativistic illusion is possible.


27 posted on 03/29/2010 9:41:12 PM PDT by onedoug
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which to us however is clearly not the case.

We are receding from them at near light speed, and they from us. The Big Bang and dark energy have pushed us up to this breakneck speed which, of course, we don't sense and can't see if we only look at things near to us. But to anyone who looks out at the most distant reaches of the observable universe, it looks like expansion. The universe scares the crap out of me.

28 posted on 03/30/2010 12:39:34 AM PDT by LibWhacker (America awake!)
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The universe scares the crap out of me.

Why?

29 posted on 03/30/2010 5:44:29 AM PDT by onedoug
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It’s too weird. I wouldn’t mind if physicists never fully understood it. I just don’t want weird.


30 posted on 03/30/2010 9:39:30 AM PDT by LibWhacker (America awake!)
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To: LibWhacker

I think God is pleased that humans use their inetellect to try to figure it out, and pass it on to whomever else might be interested, so long as we husband the process. That it seems weird is a reflection of God in that sense, Who has made it good in the image of His goodness.


31 posted on 03/30/2010 10:08:51 AM PDT by onedoug
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