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Senate Votes to End Restrictions on Travel to Cuba
FOX NEWS ^ | October 23, 2003 | AP

Posted on 10/23/2003 1:06:04 PM PDT by BulletBobCo

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:37:26 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON

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TOPICS: Cuba; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cubapolicy; veto
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1 posted on 10/23/2003 1:06:05 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: BulletBobCo
If Bush fullfills on his threat and vetos this bill, it will make Jeb's job to deliver Florida verrrrry easy, in more ways than one.
2 posted on 10/23/2003 1:14:49 PM PDT by kimoajax
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To: BulletBobCo
Hmmm.. I don't detect the slightest bit of increased Federal spending in this legislation. President Bush might finally get to exercise his first veto!
3 posted on 10/23/2003 1:16:23 PM PDT by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero, something's gonna happen..)
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To: BulletBobCo
Veto or no veto...Castro will never get a dime of mine.
4 posted on 10/23/2003 1:16:59 PM PDT by South40 (My vote helped defeat bustamante. Did yours?)
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To: BulletBobCo
JWB's first veto.....

He signed stuff that should have been vetoed, but will veto this for political calculations. Disappointing.
5 posted on 10/23/2003 1:17:14 PM PDT by RJCogburn ("I want a man with grit."..................Mattie Ross of near Dardenelle in Yell County)
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To: BulletBobCo
Traveling to Cuba is quite easy for an American. All you need to do is go to Mexico or Canada, hop on a plane to Havana and ask the customs people at the Havana airport not to stamp your passport.
8 posted on 10/23/2003 1:26:07 PM PDT by jsbankston
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To: RJCogburn
He signed stuff that should have been vetoed, but will veto this for political calculations.

Maybe he's signing this one b/c he disagrees seriously with lifting the ban (as well as the political implications of it).

9 posted on 10/23/2003 1:26:07 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (Doom.)
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To: RJCogburn
Oh wait. I skipped over the key sentence that this is an amendment to the Transportation and Treasury appropriations which spends $90 billion (an increase from $75 billion in FY2003). I won't hold my breath on the veto after all!
10 posted on 10/23/2003 1:26:39 PM PDT by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero, something's gonna happen..)
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To: kimoajax
Greetings from Cuba

Moscow once guaranteed the cheap oil that kept fleets of buses on the move and powered the aging rail network. Now the country can’t get enough fuel to run its buses or enough credit to replace those beyond repair. In Havana, huge, converted articulated trucks called camellos [camels] carry as many as 300 crushed and sweating passengers at a time. Travelling between cities is even worse.

There are few inter-city buses and in the countryside the converted trucks sometimes carry animals at the same time. The diesel trains that wend their way slowly across the island don’t help much. Carriages are crowded and there are frequent delays. So Cubans from all walks of life hitchhike.


In “Journey Back to the Source,” Alejo Carpentier, the country’s most famous novelist, captures the eerie feeling of going back in time: “The candles lengthened slowly, gradually guttering less and less. When they reached their full size, the nun extinguished them and took away their light. The wicks whitened, throwing off red sparks... Marcial had the strange sensation that all the clocks in the room were striking five, then half-past four, then half-past three ... ”

It sometimes seems as if ideological purity has been preserved by driving Cuba back through time, as if Fidel Castro was trying to put into practice the historical regression described by Carpentier. It is all very well to rely on horses, bicycles and lorries for transport but, on top of material shortages, surely it is making life almost intolerably difficult for ordinary Cubans?

‘PROGRAMMED TO SLOWNESS’

When we were still in Havana, Miriam Leiva, a former diplomat and government opponent whose husband is seriously ill in prison, described the grim day-to-day pain of it all. “You get up. You don’t have any milk. You have a piece of bread, but maybe you have eaten it the night before. You go out. You could be two hours or more waiting for transport. You arrive tired at work. You are programmed to slowness. You have to aguantar — to put up with it.”

On the road, many people are obviously aguantando. Tired with blank faces, waiting hopefully under motorway bridges or at crossroads. As we begin the long haul back from Santiago to Havana we pick up a sugar worker who needs to wake at 4:30 a.m. to be cutting sugar cane by 7 a.m. Teachers wax lyrical about plans to reduce class sizes to just 15 students, but Teresa, a 21-year-old teacher who has hitched from her home to buy a pair of jeans in Bayamo, says she occasionally misses her morning class because she can’t get a lift in time.

Everyone, it seems, eventually gets to where they are going. Many of our passengers waited several hours for a lift, but no one we met spent a night under the stars. And most people seem extraordinarily good-natured about it all. We are shocked to learn that David, a surgeon and the owner of a guest-house we stay in, is catching a bus at 4 a.m. the next morning to operate in a city 100 miles away. The next day, returning to pick up our bags, we discover that he made the journey, only to find that the hospital didn’t have the necessary anesthetics. He cheerfully hitchhiked back. “It was my fault. I should have called to check.”

"Free" medical care, too bad the hospitals don't have antibiotics or anesthesia.

Of course, only the "free" hospitals lack resources.

The pay-with-dollars hospitals are stocked with everything needed for modern medicine, and these hospitals offer cheaper-than-at-home surgeries to tourists, mainly from Europe and Canada.

I guess the US Senate is trying to curb our medical costs by making it easier for Americans to go to Cuba for surgeries and other medical procedures at a cheaper price.

11 posted on 10/23/2003 1:28:31 PM PDT by george wythe
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To: AntiGuv
Oh wait. I skipped over the key sentence that this is an amendment to the Transportation and Treasury appropriations which spends $90 billion (an increase from $75 billion in FY2003). I won't hold my breath on the veto after all!

Do you live in a log cabin in the Appalachians?

12 posted on 10/23/2003 1:37:48 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (Doom.)
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To: BulletBobCo
We do unlimited business with red China. Vietnam is now allowed to import billions in textiles to us but we restrict travel to Cuba. Something doesn't make sense about our dealings with Cuba.
13 posted on 10/23/2003 1:49:51 PM PDT by em2vn
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To: Texas_Dawg
I have a cabin in the Appalachians (with a spectacular view, I might add) though it's not my primary residence. Why do you ask?
14 posted on 10/23/2003 1:52:52 PM PDT by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero, something's gonna happen..)
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To: BulletBobCo
- "To the leaders of the democratic nations of the world, to the North American people, and in particular to the President of the United States, Mr. George W. Bush, we ask only one simple commitment: DO NOT SUPPORT OR PROPOSE A SINGLE SOLUTION OR SETTLELMENT WITH RESPECT TO THE CUBAN NATION WHICH YOU WOULD NOT DEEM ACCEPTABLE FOR YOUR OWN COUNTRY.

May God illuminate our way for the freedom of Cuba.

DR. OSCAR ELIAS BISCET GONZALEZ
President of the Lawton Foundation for Human Rights in Cuba
Prisoner of Conscience

More...

http://www.free-biscet.org/

This is why NO ONE should be patronizing CUBA with any enjoyment escapades!

15 posted on 10/23/2003 1:57:23 PM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: em2vn
Something doesn't make sense about our dealings with Cuba.

The short answer to your concern: Dictator Castro does not want to do business with the US, and he purposely sabotages any attempt to improve the US-Cuban relations.

For instance, when his friend Jimmy Carter opened up significant communications with Castro's regime and was about to dismantle the US economic boycott of the island, Castro unleashed his illegal Mariel boat lift to help sink Carter's chances of being re-elected.

Another instance of Castro spitting on his friends' faces is his behavior with President Clinton. In 1994, President Clinton signed an immigration accord with Castro that gave Castro almost everything he asked.

Afterwards, President Clinton started high-level negotiations to get rid of the US economic boycott of the Cuban regime. How did Castro pay back to his friend?

Castro murdered 3 American citizens and 1 US resident in international waters by shooting down a tiny airplane with Cuban military MiGs.

Congress reacted by tightening the economic boycott against Cuba, and Clinton had little choice but sign the bill.

Castro uses US economic boycott to justify his mismanagement of the Cuban economy. On the other side of this mouth, Castro claims that US unfair trade practices with Latin American countries is the source of the region's poverty.

Of course, Castro trades with every other country in the world... Canada, Europe, Latin America and Asia.

My toothbrush was made in Malasia, and my soap is made in China. Nevertheless, Cubans do not have access to toothbrushes or soap, except for the Cubans who can buy at the pay-with-dollars-only stores.

And Castro blames the shortage on the fact that he cannot buy those goods in the US????!!!!!

16 posted on 10/23/2003 2:15:37 PM PDT by george wythe
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To: BulletBobCo
The isolation has dome more to keep Castro in power than Che ever could have done.

Castro has outlasted JFK, LBJ, Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, George Bush-1, Bill Clinton and Geroge Bush 2!

What part of failed policy don't we understand?
17 posted on 10/23/2003 2:16:42 PM PDT by Kay Soze (Michael Schiavo - Living proof of how low liberals go for cash in order to avoid work.)
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To: ExGuru
Travel agent lobby?

Surely you jest! Travel agents are being squeezed out of business by the airlines. My stepmom is a travel agent in Miami and would make more money per hour collecting tin cans.

She is losing out on her main business, though (Venezuela - thanks to that a-hole Chavez).
18 posted on 10/23/2003 2:22:45 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats
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To: BulletBobCo
It passed 59-36. Bush vetos. They don't have 67 votes to override.

It's dead, Jim.

19 posted on 10/23/2003 2:27:27 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: AntiGuv
Haha, so true. Bush hasn't met a spending bill he didn't like! NO VETO HERE!
20 posted on 10/23/2003 2:29:41 PM PDT by xrp
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