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New genomic data helps resolve biology's tree of life
University of Wisconsin-Madison Nature ^
| 22-Oct-2003
| Public release
Posted on 10/22/2003 4:23:55 PM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: AdmSmith
When they prove that a loaf of bread is related to the airplane...let me know.
Until then...I'm taking a shower.
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posted on
10/23/2003 10:53:38 AM PDT
by
PoorMuttly
(Muttly Axiom #1..."What cannot be eaten, must be sprayed.")
To: js1138
I thought blue text had been copyrighted on FR.
To: PatrickHenry
Well of course! A certain cyber-genius who often favors us with his insights has proven beyond all doubt -- merely by posting his opinions here -- that all research ever done conclusively proves the falsity of evolution. I back up my statements with facts. All you do is slime - even on threads I am not on. And of course you and your gang of thugs got another thread pulled yesterday because the losers of evolution kept getting caught in their lies and being shown that their theory is totally false. This whole thread is an insult and an ad-hominem attack. Shows exactly the kind of low-lifes evolutionists are. You cannot discuss anything honestly because you know that evolution is total garbage.
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posted on
10/23/2003 6:36:33 PM PDT
by
gore3000
("To say dogs, mice, and humans are all products of slime plus time is a mystery religion.")
To: AdmSmith
The problem with that approach, according to the new Wisconsin study, is that trees constructed on single genes often seem to lack reliability. Different genes give different answers so that one gene from a group of organisms depicts one tree, while a different gene from the same organisms will paint an entirely different phylogenetic picture.Which shows quite well that the assumptions of this tree of life are totally false. If evolution were true each and every gene in each every species would provide the same tree. It does not because these species did not evolve, they were created and evolution is total nonsense. This is just another attempt after many failed ones to make some new criteria which can be manipulated to prove evolution to be true. Since even simple creatures have some 1,000 genes, there is plenty of room in this approach to get whatever results one wishes. It therefore is in no way objective and it is not science.
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posted on
10/23/2003 6:41:15 PM PDT
by
gore3000
("To say dogs, mice, and humans are all products of slime plus time is a mystery religion.")
To: gore3000
If evolution were true each and every gene in each every species would provide the same tree. It does not because these species did not evolve, they were created and evolution is total nonsense.
Please check "horizontal transfer" of genes on the Internet and you will have an answer on your question. Take almost any link frome this search
http://www.google.com/search?q=horizontal+transfer+genes
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posted on
10/23/2003 10:40:05 PM PDT
by
AdmSmith
To: gore3000
If evolution were true each and every gene in each every species would provide the same tree. It does not because these species did not evolve, they were created and evolution is total nonsense.
Please check "horizontal transfer" of genes on the Internet and you will have an answer on your question. Take almost any link frome this search
http://www.google.com/search?q=horizontal+transfer+genes
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posted on
10/23/2003 10:40:11 PM PDT
by
AdmSmith
To: AdmSmith
To: medved
To: SallyQ
Patrick Hillary? Retires into hiding when intellectually challenged and will go to JR to get you banished over this thread. Member of a group of Christian bashers. Just ignore them. They post to taunt you, so treat them as the spiritually dead that they are.
7 Posted on 03/05/2001 23:38:53 PST by peg the prophet
50 posted on 08/08/2002 6:41 AM PDT by f.Christian
In case anyone is wondering ... all true --- why hide it !
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posted on
10/23/2003 11:22:02 PM PDT
by
f.Christian
(evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- * architecture * !)
To: AdmSmith
Please check "horizontal transfer" of genesDid you bother to read it? Sounds like you did not. Such transfers only occur in bacteria. What that means is that it does not explain that the genes of much later arising species do not provide the same evolutionary tree. So my statement remains - if evolution were true all genes would provide the same tree of life. They do not.
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posted on
10/24/2003 4:56:36 AM PDT
by
gore3000
("To say dogs, mice, and humans are all products of slime plus time is a mystery religion.")
To: AdmSmith
Such transfers only occur in bacteria. Yes. Horizontal transfers never occur in fruit flies, or rats and mice, or flowering plants, or reptiles. As anyone who reads the literature can clearly see, horizontal gene transfers occur only in bacteria.
Sheesh.
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posted on
10/24/2003 5:11:13 AM PDT
by
general_re
("I am Torgo. I take care of the place while the Master is away.")
To: general_re
Nope. What all those articles say is that because different species have a similar gene then it must be due to evolution. Such has never been observed. It is circular reasoning/ The only observed transfer of genes is in bacteria. Period. Those article are just more evolutionist fact-free science.
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posted on
10/24/2003 11:00:35 PM PDT
by
gore3000
("To say dogs, mice, and humans are all products of slime plus time is a mystery religion.")
To: gore3000; general_re
Gore, welcome.
I take it that you nowadays accept evolution as you write "Such transfers only occur in bacteria." If you have time read the links provided by general-re or this article
http://genomebiology.com/2002/3/5/research/0024 and you can see that gene transfer occur across species "barriers".
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posted on
10/25/2003 3:37:17 AM PDT
by
AdmSmith
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