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To: jwalsh07
Not only do they have a right, they have a duty to preserve and defend the life of their citizens from...bad laws...

Um, hate to point this out, but the findings were made according to an unambiguous law written by those same legislators. And I'll add that the findings were made after evidentiary hearings where the judge could consider all the facts - as opposed to a truncated legislative process where legislators didn't review the record or call any witnesses. As far as I could tell, those legislators didn't have anything but emails and phone messages from similarly manipulated internet activists.

It was political grandstanding.

37 posted on 10/22/2003 4:23:36 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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Can we believe this? Confirmation anyone?

Notice: "They [the parents] will not be entitled to updates on her medical condition."

Michael Schiavo grants Schindlers visitation rights
Wednesday, October 22nd
Terri was transported by ambulance to Morton Plant Hospital in Clearwater on Tuesday.
The husband of Terri Schiavo, a brain-damaged woman at the center of a Florida right-to-die controversy, dropped his objections Wednesday to letting her parents visit her, attorneys said.

It was not immediately clear when Bob and Mary Schindler and Terri's siblings would be allowed to visit. They will not be entitled to updates on her medical condition.

Terri was moved late Tuesday to Morton Plant Hospital in Clearwater after Gov. Jeb Bush ordered her feeding tube reinserted.

The parents and Terri's husband and legal guardian, Michael Schiavo, have been at the center of a lengthy and contentious battle over whether Terri should be kept alive indefinitely in a persistent vegetative state with the feeding tube, as the parents want, or allowed to die, as the husband wants. A court ruled that the tube could be removed last week, but the state Legislature quickly passed a law giving the governor the right to intervene.

In another development, David Demeres, the chief judge of Pinellas County Circuit Court, ordered lawyers for both sides to reach an agreement within five days to designate an independent guardian for Terri, as required under the law signed by the governor.

The new guardian would become Terri Schiavo's advocate in legal proceedings, but Michael Schiavo would remain the decision-maker.
Michael Schiavo's attorney George Felos

If an agreement cannot be reached, Demeres said, he will appoint Dr. Jay Wolfson, a professor of health and law at Stetson University, as the guardian. Wolfson also works for the College of Public Health at Florida State University and the College of Medicine at the University of South Florida.

The law passed by the state Legislature Tuesday and quickly signed by Bush authorized the governor to issue an executive order reinserting the feeding tube and said a "guardian ad litem" should be appointed to the case.

A guardian ad litem is a person appointed by the court to represent the best interests of one or more children in a court action that may affect them. "Ad litem" is Latin for "for this litigation."
http://www.baynews9.com/site/NewsStory.cfm?storyid=26575
40 posted on 10/22/2003 4:27:06 PM PDT by Tucson_AZ
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Post the law and we'll see how unambiguous it is Mr Palpatine. Futhermore the Judge has no more access to the evidence than I do and I find his decision woefully inadequate and approaching lunacy. I'm leaving work now so when I get home I expect I'll find the "unambguous" law posted to me right here.

When I get there I'll post for you the unambiguous stament in the COnstitution of Florida requiring the state to defend the rights of the disabled.

And we'll debate from there. I am sincerely looking forward to it.

41 posted on 10/22/2003 4:29:48 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
It doesn't matter if it took only two seconds for the FL legislature to pass this legislation. It's law. How wise or foolish it may be can be brought up for debate, but not its legality. Does not the legislature have the power to fix its own mistakes?
51 posted on 10/22/2003 4:36:20 PM PDT by The Red Zone
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Um, hate to point this out, but the findings were made according to an unambiguous law written by those same legislators. And I'll add that the findings were made after evidentiary hearings where the judge could consider all the facts - as opposed to a truncated legislative process where legislators didn't review the record or call any witnesses.

Actually, since Judge Greer allowed George Felos to fire Terri's guardian ad litem and illegally(*) refused to let another be appointed, there was nobody with standing to file any motions on Terri's behalf.

(*) A judge is required to appoint a guardian ad litem in cases where a guardian's interests may conflict with a ward's. There is no way a reasonable judge would find that there isn't at least a potential conflict of interest regarding Terri's care, nor any possibility that the Michael/Felos' handling of her affairs might possibly not be in her best interest. But Judge Greer's the only person who gets to make that determination in Terri's case.

55 posted on 10/22/2003 4:40:25 PM PDT by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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