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China space program shows careful development
The Washington Times ^ | October 20, 2003 | Martin Sieff

Posted on 10/22/2003 2:03:41 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:09:39 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Can China, with only a fraction of the gross national product of the United States, actually beat America in manned space exploration over the next decade and more? The answer is yes, easily and for many reasons.

China's space program shows every sign of using reliable, mature and inexpensive technology rather than bankrupting itself on showy but dangerous and vastly overambitious technology, such as the U.S. manned space program has relied upon for more than two decades with the space-shuttle program.


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October 21, 2003 - Cheney Meets With Members of Congress to Discuss Space Policy***According to a source familiar with the discussion, Cheney told the Senators that he and the President would not set new space goals without the input of Congress. Cheney said that current White House discussions have focused on the appropriate role of robotic and human missions. ***

1 posted on 10/22/2003 2:03:41 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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US: NASA's workforce - NASA's mission?*** NASA has serious personnel problems. Twenty-five percent of its scientists and engineers will be eligible to retire in the next three to five years, and, as the agency's workforce has been graying, few fresh-faced recruits have been coming through its doors. NASA needs to offer incentives to potential hires.***

THEM: China rediscovers technology***Pride in high profile and immensely difficult technological achievements such as space exploration are seen by most Chinese as testament to China's reclaiming of its rightful place in the sun.

Some Chinese believe in their hearts that Chinese are really superior to Westerners in terms of basic abilities and see China's growing technological prowess as confirmation of these racial prejudices. Popular appeal is one reason why the Chinese government is able to invest vast sums in an ambitious space program, even though China faces immense social needs. Achievements in space exploration also allow the Chinese government to claim it is blotting out the past century of "humiliation" of China. ***

Will the Space Race move East?*** WASHINGTON - Something that went up in the first Chinese manned spacecraft did not come down. The Shenzhou 5, which orbited Earth 14 times last week, left behind an orbital module carrying equipment capable of capturing images of the earth's surface. This satellite could be used for many purposes, including the monitoring of United States military forces.***

2 posted on 10/22/2003 2:07:10 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Now China is sending a man into space. Why?***The Chinese space program is an ambitious one. It is also one which has generated concern and questions in the United States and throughout the world.

. First, why are the Chinese pursuing a manned space program? China said in 2000 that space activity is an integral part of the state's comprehensive development strategy. But manned space activity is both high-risk and high-cost, so why go down that road?

. Some American analysts see China's manned space activity as a Trojan horse within which they can conceal their military space activities. Others see it as a prestige program, enhancing domestic legitimacy for the government and regional leadership, and ranking China internationally "with the big boys." The U.S. Apollo program, for example, had multiple goals: reaching the moon in the cold war race against the Soviets (with a military spillover), as well as employing lots of Americans and improving their technological skills and education along the way. There is considerable evidence that the Chinese seek the same objectives.***

3 posted on 10/22/2003 2:10:16 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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What Next? Friendly Competition or New Cold War?***The Shenzhou 5 landing and safe return of the taikonaut is an event that has several strategic implications for the United States and the international community.

That's the view of William Martel, professor of National Security Affairs, and the Chair of Space Technology and Policy at the Naval War College in Newport, Rhode Island.

Firstly, Martel said, China has now entered the ranks of the "first tier" states. "In terms of prestige and technological ability, China is now of the primary players in space. This, by itself, has significant implications for the U.S. and its position of unquestioned strategic superiority in space."

Martel said that China can be expected to accelerate the pace of its space program.

"Now that China has passed the 'human milestone of putting someone in space -- and bringing him back home safely -- China will correctly conclude that its program can be directed toward more manned missions. We should remember that China is actively promoting the idea of putting people on the Moon. In addition, China will engage in other programs, such as new constellations of satellites, a new 'Hubble-like' space telescope, and so forth," Martel told SPACE.com .***

4 posted on 10/22/2003 2:14:02 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I like the quote I heard a few years ago. It went along the line that we spent millions of dollars in research and development for a pen that could write in space.

The Russians used a pencil.

5 posted on 10/22/2003 2:14:27 AM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: BulletBobCo
We gained technology. We had Lunar orbit rendezvous while the Russians had Earth orbit rendezvous. Who got there?

Time to crank up a return.

China's First Taikonaut Gets a Promotion - media blitz highlights math skill***Yang's identity was not disclosed by the secretive, military-linked space program until after his Shenzhou 5 capsule blasted off Wednesday from a base in China's desert northweBut since then, he has been the subject of intense publicity by the communist government's propaganda machine, which lauds him on television and in newspapers as a symbol of the successes of China's military and ruling party.

Yang "became an instant hero in China" following his flight, Xinhua said.

Yang, 38, was flown back to Beijing hours after his touchdown Thursday in China's northern grasslands, though there has been no sign yet when he might appear in public.

State television has repeatedly shown scenes of Yang in training, working in his space capsule and talking to his wife and 8-year-old son from orbit.

"Yang had a happy and tranquil childhood," Xinhua said. "He was intelligent as a child and a good team leader of his playmates, his parents recalled. Yang won many prizes in math competitions."

The report said Yang was a straight-A student at military college after joining the air force of the People's Liberation Army in 1983. It said that after becoming a fighter pilot, he "rated the elite" of his military division.

Yang was one of three finalists for the space flight. They were part of a 14-member astronaut corps, picked from among 1,500 military pilots.

Su Shuangning, director-general of the astronaut program, described Yang as sober-minded and with a "superb capability for self-control," Xinhua said.***

6 posted on 10/22/2003 2:22:08 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: BulletBobCo
You forgot to include the part about pencil "lead" being corrosive to metal. In a home or business, it's not that important but in a closed system like a spaceship, then it can cause problems.
7 posted on 10/22/2003 2:25:34 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult ("Read Hillary's hips. I never had sex with that woman.")
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To: BulletBobCo
That is an urban myth. The pen was created by a private enterprise and was picked up cheap by NASA. Also, you forgot to consider the consequences of pieces of broken lead in a zero gravity environment. I will try to find a reference link for you.
8 posted on 10/22/2003 4:30:53 AM PDT by Orion78 (Who died and made you thread monitor?)
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To: BulletBobCo
http://hoaxinfo.com/spacepen.htm

9 posted on 10/22/2003 4:34:28 AM PDT by Orion78 (Who died and made you thread monitor?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
...not to mention the ease and thrift of merely transmitting American technological discoveries to China, if the Chinese can just get another Democrat in the White House...
10 posted on 10/22/2003 5:56:13 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Has the Fall of California been averted--or merely postponed???)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"It is not a spectacular super-rocket that can blast its payload all the way to the Moon as a colossal Saturn V did 34 years ago. But then, even the United States can no longer build Saturn Vs. Too many of the vital plans have been lost through simple bureaucratic incompetence."

That, and the qualified supplier base is mostly gone. If there are no contracts for Company X that builds widgets for the Saturn V, then Company X goes bankrupt and its know-how is lost forever.

--Boris

11 posted on 10/22/2003 7:34:24 AM PDT by boris (The deadliest Weapon of Mass Destruction in History is a Leftist With a Word Processor)
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To: Orion78
It's an alegory for the whole difference in approach to manned spaceflight between the US and Russia. You seem to have missed the point by taking it literally.
12 posted on 10/22/2003 7:58:13 AM PDT by Dave Elias
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I don't think it is necessary for us to go all the way back to big dumb rockets to make space work. When you look at the shuttle you see lots of decisions where the priority just wasn't reducing operational complexity and cost.

The shuttle was constrained in such a way as to maximize operational cost.

13 posted on 10/22/2003 8:21:03 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: Dave Elias
It is an urban myth, (that many people believe as the truth), that makes Americans out to be wasteful, stupid and lacking common sense.
14 posted on 10/26/2003 4:10:24 PM PST by Orion78 (Who died and made you thread monitor?)
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