Lawmakers send Bush bill giving him power infeeding-tube case (Passed In House & Senate- Full Story)

AP | 10/21/03 | JACKIE HALLIFAX

[supercat]

I happen to believe that Greer and Felos have a scam going here. They certainly seemed intent on murdering Terri. I'm sure there have been many others before that weren't brought to anyone's attention.

Does anyone have the ability to examine the history of Greer/Felos? I'd bet a $50 donation to FR that Terri's is not the first case, and were it not for her refusal to die like she was supposed to, Felos/Greer would still be at it.

[STARWISE]

bOO hOOO ... you're just having a BAAAD day, aren'tcha??

This is a SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE .... READ ... for God's sake, will ya? This is about life ebbing out of a person in a contested case, where there is NO CERTAINTY about the patient's ability to be rehabilitated (which the HINO has refused at EVERY turn), where she CLEARLY is not comatose and responds to external stimuli, and about a judge who has REFUSED to consider any alternative but STARVING HER TO DEATH!!!!!!!

Would you NOT consider this to be a SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE???? Or do YOU know thousands of cases just like this????

When there is ANY doubt, you give the benefit of the doubt to LIFE ......... NOT PURPOSEFUL DEATH BY STARVATION!!!

Would you feel outrage at someone who was purposely starving a dog that was an inconvenience???? Or .. a convicted killer on death row who was purposely STARVED TO DEATH??? I'll bet you'd get your pants in a liberally wrinkled knot if you knew that was happening, but now you want to express FEAR of judicial precedent over just the CHANCE to save a human life, sentenced to a cruel and inhumane death when the facts are in conflict?

If a so-called conservative judge did this, I would feel no different ...oh, but that's right, I forgot. A conservative judge wouldn't do this. Who would be complicit in cases like this ... could it be liberal moral relativists? Or ...a liberal politician who wants the right to kill an innocent baby who's an inconvenience?? And to even have the RIGHT to murder a baby in the birth canal during delivery, puncturing its brain to suck them out??? Or ... a liberal activist who wants to protect trees, seas, manatees, whales, rock formations, coasts and ground .. and feels entitled to burn, bomb and destroy the property of others?? Or .. a morally bankrupt physician who may want to "harvest" organs from a newborn babe who may have medical challenges BEFORE it is legally declared dead. Or ... any of this ilk, who are indifferent to just how precious HUMAN LIFE is. See any paradox or hyocrisy here?

You must take out your worry beads, meditate, and focus on your naval, maybe inhale some green tea aromatherapy ... it'll all get better.

Those of us with faith don't have to go to those lengths to feel peace .. we have faith in our Lord. Do you know that doctors are wrong a lot??? Do you know than even a truly comatose patient can shock the doctors after years .. even over 10 years .. and recover from that coma??? Miracles DO happen .. events confound science.

TERRI IS NOT IN A COMA ... SHE JUST HAD THE MISFORTUNE TO MARRY A SELFISH, GREEDY, IMMORAL MAN. My guess: probably a just another Godless liberal.

We, on the other side, FIGHT ON!

[utahagen]

Thx much for the post.

[STARWISE]

OK .. thanks .. I stand corrected.. this is all I could find on the Legislature section of myflorida.com.

[Deo volente]

Adam just needs a couple of days to familiarize himself with the amazing facts of this case, and then come back for a reasonable discussion.

I talked to a doctor friend of mine the other day who was just beginning to hear about the case.
He really knew next to nothing about Terri, only the propaganda from mainstream media.
He started out by assuming that she was brain dead and classic PVS, and no hope whatsoever.
After our discussion, he was livid at what they were trying to do to her.
He said that he would look at the videos, and added that a person such as I was describing
is NOT COMATOSE, and can easily recover to a significant degree given proper therapy over time. HE COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT SHE WAS LYING THERE ALL THOSE YEARS WITH NO THERAPY. HE SAID THAT IT WAS "UNTHINKABLE" THAT THEY COULD DO THIS.

He said, "Why can't he let her parents take care of her and go on with his life?"

EXACTLY.

[adam_az]

No, he is one of the Libertarians from the Tech Threads. I am one fo the Conservatives from there and know him quite well.

I was an open source advocate while you were shilling for SCO, before your "revelation."

[Coral Snake]

Take it somewhere else. What technology I am supporting is really not appropriate to this thread.

[supercat]

If she ever recovers enough to tell her tale, I'll bet it's going to be a doozy, and it wouldn't surprise me if it involved premeditated you know what.

I suspect an audit of Terri's books, which a guardian ad litem should demand, would show ample motive for all three members of the Schiavo Triumvirate. I don't think it can be reasonably denied that all three people were trying to kill her, and if the books show what I think they do, all three would have criminal motive.

BTW, I also have a hunch that an examination of Felos'/Greer's case history might lead to some other cases being reopened. They had their routine well enough planned I don't think it's the first time they've pulled this caper. Just the first time their victim has refused to die.

[Calpernia]

WOOO HOOO! Time to celebrate!

Click and sing along!

[supercat]

Ever heard of ``due process?''

Yes. Among other things, it involves that a disabled person be represented by a guardian ad litem in all matters where her guardian's interests may be adverse to her own.

Greer declared there was no conflict of interest; that may make it "legally so", but that doesn't make it right.

[Arpege92]

"I guess Terri told you personally that she wanted to be stuck full of tubes if she ever became a vegetable"

I see your point but is it not worth the extra time it would take to make sure this is what Terri really wanted? We go out of our way for death row inmates, so why shouldn't we extend that same courtesy to Terri?

Another thing that is strange is the fact that Terri's husband was in a rush to cremate his wife's remains without an autopsy. Something's fishy here and Terri's family needs some answers.

[Arpege92]

But she's not a vegetable!

[nickcarraway]

He has a conflict of interest you could get a aircraft carrier through.

[Arpege92]

In all honesty, I believe the Freepers would have worked with a Democratic govenor to save Terri's life. We are talking about a persons life here.

[greccogirl]

The bill is narrow and only applies in certain cases where it SHOULD set a precedent.

[Arpege92]

"can you show me documented proof?"

Probably not right now but can you show me documented proof that this is really what Terri wanted?

[Calpernia]

bump! Clip boarding that tidbit, thank you!

[supercat]

The bill is narrow and only applies in certain cases where it SHOULD set a precedent.

I've got a really strong gut feeling that Terri's refusal to die may have served to expose a Schiavo/Greer murder racket. I doubt she's the first person they've killed off for profit. I'd say shutting such an enterprise down sets a very good precedent.

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

 
(Hugs)

[tutstar]

YW...I'll bet there's more if it can just be dug up...

I've been trying to google felos and dig some stuff up....
he believes he can read the souls of the disabled....http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1005175/posts