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"Top-Secret--Crypto Clearance."

Not to be unkind, but, big whoop.

TS with access to crypto is no great shakes, my friend. And this 15-yr thing? Nope.

It is obvious you have never been deeply involved in the area of clearances, the granting thereof and the levels thereof, otherwise you would know your "crypto" thing is not a classification.

You have not briefed predidents, 4-stars, senior military and government officials, among other such (ig)nobles.

I suggest you might want to re-evalate your position in the grand scheme of clearances.

You best re-consider your allegation of level above TS, as numerous people have pointed out, and I do so again, there are caveats, not levels.

Levels above TS is nonsense. There are no such things. . .and, I might add, John Alexander, one of the top people in his field, and an almost true-believer, even briefs this very thing at RV (and other) conferences.

If you had a TS, then you should know about caveats.

There are a number of them.

Point of order still stands.

I was

NOT CLAIMING great knowledge of levels of clearance above my own.

I was merely responding to the query of where I came by my information and conclusions from. So, I told you my experience.

You can say whatever you wish about my experience but it was my experience. I read the government documents about the 15 years of government service required for some

CATEGORIES, if you will, of clearance beyond TS.

And, TS crypto allowed some access which TS did not allow--however you want to word that.

COSMIC allowed some sorts of access other categories did not allow etc.

But that was 35 years or so ago. I don't have any personal experience after that period.

But, I'm not exactly an idiot about my own experience. Nor am I lying.

I don't care how many experts you quote from however many briefings of however many Presidents and generals.

I only know what I experienced. I have opinions about what I've read in addition to my experiences. But my experiences are a different level of accepted reality than opinions about other's experiences that I read about.

You sound incredibly smug and sure about yourself and your opinions.

Are you that way with your teenagers if you have some?

I suppose I could add that

in the vastly compartmentalized world of security clearances . . .

the discussion of those realities varies greatly with the EXPERIENCES of the people reporting knowledge of that world.

And, those experiences VARY GREATLY . . . at least they did 35 years ago. And the literature still sounds like they do currently.

If one wants to construe that realm of reality as a homogeneous whole, they can do so. What relationship such constructions may have with global realities in the vast field may be a whole 'nother issue.

Of course since you know it all, I suppose we could just kowtow and praise your vast knowledge on the subject like submissive sheeple.