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To: Gunrunner2
Interesting that you attended conferences where remote viewing is discussed. That concept is so far out from ordinary perspective that I generally find it difficult to give credence to it. However, if the US has studied it, they must have thought it worthwhile. Is it, in your opinion?

As for the UFO subject, I've long found it fascinating. Sometimes I'm fairly skeptical, other times I have a haunting feeling that there is a reality behind it. Can't say whether I hope there is or not, but if there is, I'm probably happier if it keeps its distance.

I'm outdoors alot, on the water, sometimes in the woods, but have never seen anything to make me wonder.
213 posted on 10/22/2003 1:49:07 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Sam Cree
As far as RV goes, was recruited for the program when it was still in the black. Turned them down, as I had a choice: a) go fly F-15E's, or b) "use the force, Luke."

I chose F-15E's. I am/was a fighter pilot after all.

"They" were looking for people that were not wild-eyed true believers willing to believe anything, but they also didn't want true non-believers that denied everything. Reasonable approach.

I fell in the middle, neither a true believer nor a non-believer. I just don't know.

I think the US government was into it for 20-yrs because they had some apparent successes. That said, I still don't know if I "believe" but I do know that a vast majority of people into this type of stuff are true believers and claim all sorts of weird stuff as fact. This is no good, and that is why I hold more respect for the researchers that actually RESEARCH and attempt to hold to scientific protocols and physics, rather than the emotive types that take any coincidence as proof.

I met hundreds of the true-believers at those conferences and they do tend to be passionate and this passion affects their judgment.

I’ve had some very interesting conversations with the 20% that were reasonable researchers, but I’ve also had some very tiring conversations (mostly one-side with me listening) with the true believers. True believers would do well to lighten up and accept that a great portion of their passion is hype, fraud, made up or just plain misinterpretation of actual events. Instead, they hold every allegation as proof.

For example, last conference had an RV person hold up a drawing that showed her RV session depicting two buildings and an aircraft running into the building. She said she made the drawing in ’95 and alleged this was absolute proof of her predicting 9-11. Great. I pointed out that she could hold that picture for 50-yrs or more and sometime in that time frame some plane, somewhere, would hit a building. She didn’t accept that.

Another guy did a group RV session “into the future.” He asked what everyone had for their impression of the future. Everyone said that future was chaos; society was broken down, agrarian, less technology, etc. He said those impression hold all over when he does this exercise. I pointed out that ALL books and movies of the future are apocalyptic, like Mad Max, Terminator, the Bible Revelations, etc, and I also pointed out that society IS becoming less civilized and less social. Therefore, is survey was impeached. He was having none of that. Insisted he was right and we are all doomed.

These types of people do more damage than they know.

They are entertaining, and most are darned interesting in a harmless sort of way.

Cheers.
219 posted on 10/22/2003 3:30:07 PM PDT by Gunrunner2
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