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Third-Party Peril. President Bush could have some serious 2004 worries.
NRO ^ | October 20, 2003, 8:31 a.m. | John Derbyshire

Posted on 10/20/2003 6:44:50 AM PDT by .cnI redruM

The history books show that George W. Bush's father lost the 1992 presidential election to Bill Clinton by 370 Electoral College votes to 168. As usual in our system, the popular vote was nothing like as decisive as the Electoral College numbers suggest. It actually went as follows: Bush 38 percent, Clinton 43 percent, Perot 19 percent. Did Perot cost Bush that election? Nobody really knows. The number crunchers are still squabbling, and you can find arguments pro and con. The following statement, though, is incontrovertible: A strong third-party candidate can change the result of a presidential election, causing the defeat of a candidate — even of a sitting president — who would otherwise have won. If this did not happen in 1992 or 1968 (when George Wallace was the spoiler), it surely happened in 1912, when Teddy Roosevelt split the Republican vote, bringing down sitting Republican president William Howard Taft and giving the presidency to Democrat Woodrow Wilson.

Could such a thing be on the cards for the 2004 election? Nobody's been talking about it . . . but then, there are a great many things in modern American life that no one talks about. The main topic of what follows, for example.

I'd like to suggest that a third-party challenge is a strong possibility; and that, if launched in the way I am about to suggest, and absent some drastic changes in the current administration's policies, might very well become a decisive factor in causing George W. Bush to be the second single-term president of his line (thus nicely reprising the Presidents Adams, father and son, single-termers both).

The following arguments are independent of any dramatic developments at home or abroad over the next 13 months; I am going to assume that at election time 2004, things are pretty much as they are now. Given the state of the world, and of the U.S. economy, this is not actually likely to be the case; but I think my argument offers a strong cautionary tale nonetheless, one that administration planners would do well to heed.

Let us begin by looking at those previous instances of spoiling, or possibly spoiling, third-party candidacies. In each case an essential component of the candidate's success in taking votes away from the major parties was a strong voice on some clear issue of concern to some large number of voters nationwide. Teddy Roosevelt spoke for the Progressive movement, which many voters felt (somewhat unfairly, as I read the record) had lost momentum under President Taft. George Wallace was a focus for the resentments stirred up by the civil-rights movement of the mid 1960s. Ross Perot got his energy from the collapse of American manufacturing, and the feeling that foreign trade was being conducted in a way that was unfair to U.S. workers.

Is there some such issue today, some issue that would energize ten or twenty million voters nationwide to go out and vote for a candidate not of their party? You bet, and you know what that issue is.

So here is the scenario. George W. Bush is heading into the spring primaries with a lackluster economy, GIs getting killed in Iraq and Afghanistan (remember Afghanistan?) at a low but steady rate, and — let's be frank here — the worst policy-presentation skills since Herbert Hoover. The Democrats have a raft of candidates, none of whom excites terrific enthusiasm, but two or three of whom are showing skill at exploiting current discontents.

Along comes Candidate X. He is probably self-financing; a patriot with a ton of money, some experience of public life, and a deep concern with the key issue. (My acquaintance with the stinking rich is miserably slight, but I can, without breaking a sweat, think of three names that might fit here.) He may have got himself nominated as head of Perot's old Reform party, or he may have formed a party all of his own. Here is what he says.

My fellow Americans, our federal government is failing us in one of its most basic, most elementary duties: It is not protecting our nation's borders and points of entry, and it is not exercising proper supervision over foreign visitors. Every week, thousands of foreigners enter our country illegally, or stay here illegally when they ought to leave. Most of these people simply seek to better their lives, to escape from the poverty or oppression of their homelands, to build prosperity for themselves and their families in a free country. A small minority are common criminals, who believe they can ply their lawless trade better in a country which severely restrains the activities of its police, and whose courts give the benefit of every possible doubt to the accused. A much smaller minority are terrorists, who come here with the intent to kill as many of us as they can, by the most horrifying means they can think of, in order to change the direction of our national policies, or even with the hope of destroying our nation altogether. All, however, are breaking our laws, as are those American firms that employ them.

Why are these laws not enforced by our federal executive? Why, if the laws themselves are unsatisfactory, are they not changed by our federal legislature? Why are these laws repeatedly interpreted by our federal judiciary to give maximum scope to the continuation of this mass illegality? If, as the federal judiciary apparently intends, a person who enters the United States unlawfully, or unlawfully overstays his agreed term of residence here, is to be granted something close to full citizenship rights, without significant penalty, why do we have complex and expensive procedures for legal immigration? And what do we say to immigrants who follow our laws and wait patiently for their citizenship, when those who scoff at the laws and jump the lines are waved through?

We can discuss the answers to those questions in another place — I shall be glad to offer my own answers upon interview. I only want to stress to you here the plain fact that our laws are not being enforced, that our federal government is derelict in the performance of its most basic duty towards its masters — we, the people. Also to draw your attention to the consequences of that dereliction, namely, that the character of our country is being changed.

Change is, of course, nothing to fear for a dynamic and forward-looking nation like ours. Americans have always welcomed change. The great wave of lawful immigration into this country through the late 19th and early 20th century changed and enriched us immeasurably — though we should recall that in order to give those newcomers time properly to assimilate, we severely curtailed legal immigration for 40 years, from 1924 to 1965.

As welcome as change may be, however, it must come about in a way the American people have considered and approved, a way codified in laws passed by our elected representatives. Such great changes as are now occurring in the population of our nation, and in the distribution of useful work, and even in the languages spoken in our communities, require the approval and ratification of the American people. Otherwise we are not a democracy.

Our nation is being transformed before our eyes, not in any way we willed or planned or specified or approved or voted for, but haphazardly, by vast influxes of people who have come not because they are the most able, or most desired, or best qualified, or most useful, or most likely to make good Americans, but simply because they are the most adjacent, and the most audacious in evading our laws and border controls. Because the federal authorities will not enforce our laws — existing laws, laws passed by our own elected Congress! — our states and municipalities, our hospitals and schools, our welfare and police and prison systems, are being beggared by the demands placed upon them by foreigners who scoff at the procedures we have carefully established for entry into the United States.

The matter of unrestrained illegal immigration is linked to, though it is not the same as, the issue of immigration at large. Very few Americans are hostile to immigration. The overwhelming majority of us, after all, are descended from lawful immigrants, if we are not actually lawful immigrants ourselves. However, just as we insist that the laws of this republic be properly, fairly, and humanely enforced by the officers of this republic, we also insist that, as a nation of free citizens, we should participate, through our political institutions, in decisions about the number of immigrants to be admitted, the countries or regions we should prefer them to come from, and the kinds of skills we should like them to bring to our republic.

That participation is being denied to us. It is now almost 40 years since the revolutionary Immigration Act of 1965, which created the current regime of legal immigration. Did that act work as intended? Does it need revising? Adjusting? Repealing? Leaving alone? There is apparently a consensus among our political classes and media elites that this topic is out of bounds — that to broach it in the public forum is "nativist," "racist," or "bigoted." Why? Is not the composition of our country's population a matter American citizens ought to be concerned with? Is it improper for us even to discuss what kind of country our children and grandchildren will spend their lives in?

My fellow Americans, I urge you to cast a vote for me in November. I promise you that my first acts as president will be to secure our nation's borders and points of entry, identify and expel all foreigners who are living here unlawfully, punish all American corporations who have violated our laws by employing illegal aliens, and ask Congress to assist my administration in drafting a comprehensive new bill on legal immigration, one suitable for the conditions of the early 21st century.

Even in the event I am not successful in my quest for the presidency, your vote will have helped make it clear to our established political parties, and to our representatives and judges and administrators, that we, the citizens of the United States, cherish our laws, even if our government does not; that we desire to see those laws enforced — fairly, properly, humanely, without discrimination, but enforced — and that we insist on having some say in the composition of the country that we shall hand on to our children: its population, its environment, its customs, its language, its religions, its legal and political traditions, its values. Cast your vote for me in November!

Here is my prediction. Should a candidate come up saying these things, or anything close to them, and should that candidate's campaign not be derailed by the machinations of his opponents or the media, or by some gross blunder of his own, he will get at least 20 million votes next November — more than Ross Perot got in 1992.

From which party's candidate will most of those votes be taken? Figure it out for yourself. Will those votes be enough to change the outcome of the election? Heck, I don't know. As I said, the spreadsheet shufflers are still bickering about 1992, and a great many things can happen in the next 13 months. It is certainly possible, though.

It is possible, in other words, that the 2004 presidential election will be the first one in U.S. history to be decided on the National Question: Who are we, and who do we wish to be? If I were George W. Bush, I'd be having nightmares about this.


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KEYWORDS: derbyshire; discontent; gwb2004; immigration; thirdparty
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I really am amazed neither party has willingly attacked this issue. It's one that could decisively swing a major voting block. I doubt a 3rd party candidate would really get 20 mil. votes on it, but a 1st or 2nd party candidate could assist his side in totally changing the landscape of the House of Representatives.
1 posted on 10/20/2003 6:44:50 AM PDT by .cnI redruM
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To: .cnI redruM
Here is my prediction. Should a candidate come up saying these things, or anything close to them, and should that candidate's campaign not be derailed by the machinations of his opponents or the media, or by some gross blunder of his own, he will get at least 20 million votes next November — more than Ross Perot got in 1992.

And if my Aunt had balls, she'd be my Uncle.

2 posted on 10/20/2003 6:47:51 AM PDT by grobdriver
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To: .cnI redruM
I really am amazed neither party has willingly attacked this issue

This an issue that only people who dont have political money to throw in the ring care about. The business class and leftist multiculturists could care less. And the big center can barely get out of the sofa chairs on Sunday afternoon.

3 posted on 10/20/2003 6:51:15 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: .cnI redruM
Did Perot cost Bush that election? Nobody really knows

Did Ralph Nader cost Gore the election?
I know. ...He did. - Tom

4 posted on 10/20/2003 6:51:25 AM PDT by Capt. Tom (anything done in moderation shows a lack of interest -Capt. Tom circa 1948)
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To: .cnI redruM
The Dems have much more to worry about in a third party scenario.

Green Party candidates like Ralph Nader take votes away from Democrats. Ralph really has no reson not to run. He's already been marked as a spoiler from 2000. If he doesn't run, I hear that Cynthia McKinney might run. Certainly would take away some of the black vote.

5 posted on 10/20/2003 6:52:02 AM PDT by Republican Red (Karmic hugs welcomed!)
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To: .cnI redruM
"I really am amazed neither party has willingly attacked this issue. It's one that could decisively swing a major voting block. I doubt a 3rd party candidate would really get 20 mil. votes on it, but a 1st or 2nd party candidate could assist his side in totally changing the landscape of the House of Representatives."

The whole article is horse hockey. The only "third party" possibility anywhere even remotely on the radar screen is Nader/Green Party, which hurts the liberal wing of the Democrats, not George Bush.

As to the "illegal immigration" issue--to MOST people, it is a minor irritation, not a source of major political "juice".

6 posted on 10/20/2003 6:54:53 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Republican Red
I agree. Once the "anoited" democrat starts moving back towards the center after pandering to the base, the looney left will begin to defect in the name of ideological purity.

I think that the third parties of the right may have been somewhat of a casualty of 9/11.

7 posted on 10/20/2003 6:54:59 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (There's two kinds of people in the world. Those with loaded guns and those that dig.)
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To: Republican Red
When Barracks Emporer Wastely Clark entered the race, Dean hinted at a 3rd party run. I could see Hatred-Powered Howard going over 5% as a Whacko Party nominee.
8 posted on 10/20/2003 6:55:24 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (The September 11th attacks were clearly Clinton's most consequential legacy. - Rich Lowry)
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To: Republican Red
You are right on target re the Rats have more to fear from a 3rd party. Even the master of the third party, PJB, has just written an oped on this.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1004296/posts

Is it Bush vs. Dean?

Posted: October 20, 2003 1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2003 Creators Syndicate, Inc.

With an uptick in his approval rating to 56 percent – higher than Reagan at this point in his presidency – George W. Bush seems to have weathered his summer squall and to be well-positioned to do what his father failed to do: Win a second term.

The resurgence in the president's ratings appears due to two factors: the California recall election that riveted the nation – and in which the face of the Democratic Party was that of Gray Davis, and of the GOP that of Arnold. Second, the bull market, with the Dow nearing 10,000 again.

If Wall Street remains the lead indicator it has usually been – a predictor of what is to come in the economy six to 12 months out – Bush could be presiding over good times in 2004.

Moreover, with the dollar sinking, aiding U.S. exports, with most Bush tax cuts taking effect before November '04, with Alan Greenspan gunning the money supply and with a $550 billion deficit pumping out cash, the economy has all the steroids it needs for an Olympic performance in 2004.

Then there is Iraq, about which a consensus seems to be emerging. Those who opposed the war do not want to cut and run and leave Iraq to chaos and civil war. Those who supported the war do not want to stay on forever and fight an Iraqi intifada.

The consensus appears to be this: America will not send fresh new divisions to fight a 5- or 10-year war. Iraq will be helped onto its feet and power transferred as soon as possible, so Iraqis themselves can take responsibility for their own independence. And then, the Americans go home.

But if the United States is losing half a dozen soldiers a week with scores wounded in October of next year, and Bush comes back to Congress for another $87 billion, "Bush's War" will be the issue of 2004. Especially with the Democratic nominee likely to be Howard Dean of Vermont.

Here is another reason to bet on Bush. Though badly cut up by rivals over the summer, Dean still runs ahead of Rep. Gephardt in Iowa and of Sen. Kerry in New Hampshire, with summer sensation Gen. Wesley Clark trailing badly in both states. And we are only three months away from the voting.

During the summer, Gephardt failed to win the endorsement of the AFL-CIO. Clark has had problems both with message and organization, and was beaten up in the last debate. And Kerry just got some very bad news from a Granite State Poll.

Last winter, he led Dean 39 percent to 11 percent in that New Hampshire survey of likely Democratic voters. Now, Dean leads Kerry 30 percent to 17 percent, a turnaround of 42 points. Where 65 percent of likely voters had a positive image of Kerry as of last winter, only half that number do today. Add to this that Dean led all other Democrats in fund raising in the third quarter, and it is becoming difficult to see just who is going to stop the anti-war ex-governor.

The anti-Dean vote may be the majority inside the Democratic Party. But it is divided among Gephardt, Kerry, Clark and Sens. Joe Lieberman and John Edwards, with no sign any of the five can pull it together before Dean begins rolling up victories in Iowa and New Hampshire, and pulling away. One Democrat could step in at this late hour, stop Howard Dean and seize the nomination. But she is reluctant.

If, however, Dean is nominated, he will be an anti-war candidate of a party most of whose national leaders – Gephardt, Kerry, Edwards, Lieberman, Daschle, Clinton – voted for war. The last Democrat to take so vivid an anti-war stand was George McGovern in 1972.

Second, Dean's call for repeal of the Bush tax cuts will make him, for the purposes of GOP campaign commercials, the pro-tax candidate. Lieberman is already on tape predicting a "Dean Depression." Democrats have not nominated a tax-raiser since Walter Mondale in 1984, and like McGovern, he, too, lost 49 states.

Third, Dean's support of civil unions for homosexuals in Vermont will make "gay" marriage, and the GOP constitutional amendment restricting marriage to a man and woman, the social issue of 2004.

In 1972, Nixon ran against McGovern as the candidate, in Sen. Hugh Scott's phrase, of "acid, amnesty and abortion." If Bush and Karl Rove, using the $170 million they plan to raise by spring, can paint Dean as pro-homosexual weddings, pro-hiking taxes and "soft on Saddam," Dean and the Democrats could face a wipeout.

Nothing is certain in politics. Few predicted the Bush swoon of last summer. And the economy could go into that "double-dip" recession some predict. But as of now, it looks like "Four More Years!" for GWB.



Of course the swoon this summer existed mainly in the plains of the minds who wanted GW to have a swoon.
9 posted on 10/20/2003 6:55:32 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Get a free FR coffee mug! Donate $10 monthly to Free Republic or 34 cents/day!)
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To: .cnI redruM
Are you crazy? You're AMAZED neither party has attacked the issue? Gee, I guess you think losing the votes of the largest minority group in the country for a generation is worth getting the votes of a small "swing bloc" in one election. I see clearly why neither party has "attacked" this issue. All the illegals eventually vote and vote RAT. That's why the RATS haven't "attacked" the issue. The GOP thinks that if they keep speaking Spanish and "reaching out" that illegals will vote R. Plus, they don't want a repeat of California in the early 90's, when they looked anti-Latino and got tossed out of every statewide office. Also, the corporate community that provides the GOP with its funding likes illegal immigration because it provides cheap labor.
10 posted on 10/20/2003 6:56:42 AM PDT by wylenetheconservative
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Along comes Candidate X. He is probably self-financing; a patriot with a ton of money, some experience of public life, and a deep concern

If there was such a person in ready to run for president, we would already know about him. The election is only ONE YEAR AWAY.

Does this guy think that someone can show up on November 1, 2004 and run for president?

11 posted on 10/20/2003 7:00:07 AM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar
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Well, a right-of-center candidate who attacks illegal immigration will be painted as a bigot; possibly a Nazi, by the media. I don't know if the media would have the stomach for advancing such a candidate to the level of being a spoiler. And that's what a third party candidate needs: media support.

I also think the issue only plays at the border states, one of the largest being Texas. Bush will win Texas, and he never had California, so IMHO the impact wouldn't be exactly dramatic.

It seems to me that illegal immigration is still a 2nd tier issue. Not something you can run a campaign on.

12 posted on 10/20/2003 7:01:13 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: .cnI redruM
Considering that the "Alien Act" contributed to Adams' defeat, Adams is an ironic example to use to suggest Bush should do something similar to win!

Illegal immigration is tough issue. It's so much a part of history that many people just won't accept that we have to crack down.

13 posted on 10/20/2003 7:09:02 AM PDT by mrsmith
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Mr. Bush better move to the HARD RIGHT and I don't mean maybe, or he's lost it and he will join his father as a single term president.

On Immigration/Illegal Aliens.

On Social Welfare/Taxes.

Fix the Economy.

Stabilize/Turn Over and Get the Hell Out of Iraq

This (above) scenario in the article, IMHO, is extremely plausible.

As it is, we are approaching, albeit not as bad, the same situation under Jimmy Carter, i.e. the media ticks off every day "Another GI Killed in Iraq" in the same way they heralded "Day #__ Of AMERICA HELD HOSTAGE" over Iran in 1979, his numbers in the polls drop 1-2% per week. Coupled with continuing unemployment, McJobs for White Collars/Lost Jobs to China for Blue Collars, stagnant economy, high prices at the gas pump, and we are staring at an American voting populace that is fickle and impatient enough to turn him out of office, no matter how charismatic he was three years earlier on that pile of rubble at Ground Zero with the Firemen.

To not grasp this is to forget history or to not appreciately the fickle nature of the American Electorate every four years.

14 posted on 10/20/2003 7:14:14 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (NORTH KOREA is a DANGEROUS CANCER in late stages; we still only meditate and take herbal medicines)
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His job approval ratings are back up in the 55% range and steady.
15 posted on 10/20/2003 7:43:35 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: .cnI redruM
I thought Wesley Clark could have been a spoiler as an independent.
16 posted on 10/20/2003 7:43:46 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: .cnI redruM; Poohbah; Luis Gonzalez; Chancellor Palpatine; Texas_Dawg; daviddennis; PRND21; ...
"Who are we, and what do we wish to be?"

I thought we as a country settled that in the 1776-1787 timeframe, then revisted that issue from 1861-1865.

17 posted on 10/20/2003 7:52:24 AM PDT by hchutch ("I don't see what the big deal is, I really don't." - Major Vic Deakins, USAF (ret.))
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Some questions will not conveniently stay answered. No system is immune from external perturbation. The Roman world knew what it wanted to be until the Muslims showed up in the 7th Century.
18 posted on 10/20/2003 7:55:27 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (The September 11th attacks were clearly Clinton's most consequential legacy. - Rich Lowry)
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I agree that the GOP should tackle this. I totally disagree that any third party could successfully do so, for this reason: Perot (and, to a lesser extent, McCain) got fawning press attention because they presented "GOP Lite" policies. This allowed them to run, in a sense, to the left of Bush and Bush.

This issue has no such potential. Any party/person signing on to immigration control will be branded a "xenophobe" and a "hater" and will get no media support whatsoever. Moreover, at least 50% of Perot's vote, and about 80% of McCain's, came from LEFTIES, not from the conservative right. No, unfortunately, Bush does not need to worry about an attack on this issue from a third party.

19 posted on 10/20/2003 7:57:10 AM PDT by LS
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To: Capt. Tom
There is no evidence at all that Perot "cost" Bush the election. Every exit poll I've seen said that he took votes in an equal % from both Bush and Clinton. Nader's votes came 100% from Gore voters.
20 posted on 10/20/2003 7:59:30 AM PDT by LS
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