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Rice: War on Terror Is Not War on Islam
Yahoo! News - AP Cabinet & State ^ | Sun Oct 19,12:22 PM ET | Yahoo! News . Com

Posted on 10/19/2003 12:53:02 PM PDT by Bobby777

WASHINGTON - President Bush (news - web sites)'s national security adviser insisted Sunday that the U.S. fight against terrorism is not a war between Christianity and Islam, despite a top general's comments that seemed to say it is.

But Condoleezza Rice (news - web sites) twice avoided a question about whether Bush will condemn statements by Army Lt. Gen. William G. Boykin, the deputy undersecretary of defense for intelligence.

"The president has been absolutely clear that this is not a war of religions," Rice told ABC's "This Week."

"Islam is a peaceful religion. The president is respectful of those who practice the Islamic faith," Rice said from Thailand, where Bush was attending a summit of Asian and Pacific nations.

The Pentagon (news - web sites) released a statement by Boykin late Friday in which he apologized for his characterizations of Islam and said he never meant to offend Muslims.

"I am not anti-Islam or any other religion," Boykin said. "I support the free exercise of all religions. For those who have been offended by my statements, I offer a sincere apology."

Rice was asked on ABC whether Bush would condemn Boykin's comments, in which he seemed to describe monotheistic Islam as a religion whose followers worship idols.

She replied by outlining the president's views of the religion, the fastest-growing religion in the United States. She said terrorists targeted in the U.S. anti-terrorism campaign are "people who murder and maim and in fact pervert Islam."

Asked again whether Bush would condemn Boykin's comments, she said: "The president's views on this are absolutely clear, and I think the president is very clear on what he means here. This is not a war between religions. No one should describe it as such."

A furor arose after reports were published about the statements by Boykin, in and out of uniform, in churches and elsewhere. Since the reports appeared, Boykin has told his superiors he will curtail his speechmaking.

After a 1993 battle with Osman Otto, a Muslim warlord in Somalia, Boykin said: "I knew that my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God, and his was an idol." After Otto's capture, Boykin has said he told Otto, "You underestimated our God."

Boykin's statement said the comment was misinterpreted, that he spoke of Otto's "worship of money and power; idolatry," not of his religion. "He was a corrupt man, not a follower of Islam," Boykin said.

Pentagon officials issued Friday's statement after hours of debate over ways to put aside the stir over Boykin, whose job forces him to deal with security services in many Muslim states.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911; condoleezzarice; islam; waronterror; williamboykin
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To: Mr Rogers
peaceful my A@#

Islam is militant, radical and 12th century backward
41 posted on 10/19/2003 1:47:31 PM PDT by petercooper (Proud member of the VRWC)
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To: SSN558
Islam is barbaric.

So is the old testament. There is something for everyone in both of them.

You are comparing apples and oranges, or more specifically, a religion as it is currently practiced with the literature it's based on. Are you saying Judaism is barbaric? In any case, if you happen to be of a more bloody mindset, there are more choice verses in the Koran that can be used to justify any killing you might want to indulge in.

42 posted on 10/19/2003 1:47:56 PM PDT by nosofar
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To: Mr Rogers
LOL ... hehe
43 posted on 10/19/2003 1:48:28 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: PsyOp
>WE may not be waging a Holy War on Islam, but Islam IS waging one against us

So you are sure that
Islamic terrorists stand
for global Muslims?

Do the Democrats
stand for all Americans?
Are the globalists

America, too?
These days, Christian people must
try to look deeply...

44 posted on 10/19/2003 1:51:18 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Cultural Jihad
Anybody with the word "jihad" in their FR name NEED NOT EVER REPLY TO ME!
45 posted on 10/19/2003 1:52:07 PM PDT by Lion in Winter
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To: Bobby777
BTTT
46 posted on 10/19/2003 1:52:43 PM PDT by Lion in Winter
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To: petercooper
BTTT
47 posted on 10/19/2003 1:53:41 PM PDT by Lion in Winter
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To: Bobby777
bookmarking
48 posted on 10/19/2003 1:57:57 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Brought to you by The American Democratic Party, also known as Al Qaeda, Western Division.)
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To: Lion in Winter
If you can't accept the truth or are chained to a compulsion to state that you know better than President Bush does, it is not my problem.

All I do is describe Reality. Anyone is free to disagree with Reality if they want to.

49 posted on 10/19/2003 2:01:51 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Bobby777
#1 Only a boob or a politician would say this is not a
Religious War. Every dead or imprissoned Muslim connected
to the bombing and/or destruction of the WTC has cited the
bloody Koran--and has followed the Scripture and tradition
of Islam. IF one side in a War believes it is a religious
War it is. They DO- and if we don't want to be acting like
the Sudanese Christians we had best wake up and realize what war we are in the middle of.My God is greater than
theirs -and I don't give squat what the Diplomatic policy
of this--or any WhiteHouse is.
50 posted on 10/19/2003 2:02:16 PM PDT by StonyBurk
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To: bjcintennessee
ping for later read.
51 posted on 10/19/2003 2:03:17 PM PDT by bjcintennessee (Don't Sweat the Small Stuff)
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To: StonyBurk
Every militia nutcase who commits murder is likewise convinced he is doing some great religious deed for God.
52 posted on 10/19/2003 2:06:08 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: nosofar
In Australia and in the Netherlands, groups of roaming muslim men/boys raped and terrorized young girls at swimming pools and on the streets.

In court cases, the muslims have actully used the defense of being peace loving muslim. While all the victims say in court that while being attacked the muslims called them "whores" because they were NOT muslims. AMAZING!!

Civilization and progressive thought has passed these islamics by.

islamics are like some kind of disgusting mongrel-pestilence preying on innocent people passing by them on the road to civilized life and thought.

All islamics are involved in the daily pursuit of of innocent victims on which to gorge themselves.... in the misguided belief that those activities will get them in their moon god's "paradise of perputual rape" of yet another group of innocents....virgins.

53 posted on 10/19/2003 2:17:29 PM PDT by Lion in Winter
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To: Cultural Jihad
I am not a BUSH-bot. I like Bush, in fact my late wife knew his family in Maine.

This is America, MR. JIHAD.... we can THINK AND BELIEVE differently than our polticians...even the ones we like. AMAZING IDEA HUH?

In your jihad world you have to walk in lock step with your mullah/koran.

Iran would be a great place for you, bub!

When ARE you leaving????

54 posted on 10/19/2003 2:23:36 PM PDT by Lion in Winter
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To: Cultural Jihad
Yeah, right. You need to move to Iran... yes, that IS the right place for you. IRAN. They lack culture but they have jihad. You will fit in just fine.
55 posted on 10/19/2003 2:26:10 PM PDT by Lion in Winter
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To: onedoug
You are absolutely SPOT ON!! They refuse to come into the present modern world. They resist any efforts to reform themselves.

Hopeless, to say the least.

56 posted on 10/19/2003 2:28:59 PM PDT by Lion in Winter
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To: Bobby777
indeed ... in a post-9/11 world ... incredible ...

The increase is funded primarily by the saudis and their various terror front groups like CAIR. As I understand it, the two largest growth segments are prisons and the *military*.

57 posted on 10/19/2003 2:36:36 PM PDT by tubavil
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To: StonyBurk
My God is greater than theirs . . .

There is a necessary asymmetry here that can be illustrated by your comment. They believe their God and yours are the same; you don't. In other words, you reject the very foundation of their combat with the west. It is well that you do.

Fundamentalist Islamics call it a religious war, but our politicians have understood the dangers in letting the enemy define the battle lines.

They say they have the true religion; we fight for the right to make that determination as individuals. I'll take this one step further, and it's a profound distinction: devout Christians believe that Christ will bring his kingdom to earth as he unfolds his plan for humanity. Humans simply must choose to believe in Christ to be saved. But fundamentalist Muslims believe that they should fight wars to bring about God's plan. Think about it: Christians trust God to bring heaven to earth; Muslim extremists think that mass murder is required to bring it about.

A hadith discussing the end times, in which Muslims will fight nonbelievers to trigger the onset of Judgement day reads as follows:

Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight wi the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.'"
In other words, in this militant view of Islam, Muslims are to actually play a role in their God's plan by killing people who don't believe, especially Jews. Not all Muslims believe this, by the way.

The reason we refuse to call this a holy war is that we are beyond the concept as a civilization. Think about that! The Christian God does not need humans to fight wars for his name. But Americans of all creds will fight for our right to choose our own beliefs as individuals, and we will fight for others' rights to do the same.

58 posted on 10/19/2003 2:39:53 PM PDT by risk (NEVER FORGET)
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To: Cultural Jihad
Muslims who believe the commands of islam's gang leader Mo'ham' are proponents of this Terror War on America and Western Civilization.

Islam's "scriptures" command followers to exterminate men, women, and children. Good muslims kill bad muslims, those who are peaceful or choose to follow another religion because they reject islam, which to rational people reads like a rock idol worshipping death cult made up by an unstable, predatory caravan raider who likes invading more successful societies and killing. Mo'ham's description of his pair'o'dice for the most select of his killers is a misogynistic sodden orgy with vestal virgins, rivers of wine and allah's b!+ches.

Submit or die?

Muslims have declared this terror war enshrining good muslims' acts of inhuman carnage for allah? Bad muslims want peace? Who can explain that Mo'ham's commands in islam's "scriptures" are not high crimes against humanity when the Koran and Haddith are but battle plans and schemes for world conquest, with a code of conduct to accomplish that master plan.

For 13 centuries Islam is little beyond a brutally misogynistic, invasive death cult celebrating mass murders of those who oppose the death cult. Islam depends on angry sociopathic youth who long for a fantasy afterlife.

Muslims must decide if they are peaceful or if they are good muslims. Americans are about to go to total war and will not abide 5th columns.

Muslims started this global war.
59 posted on 10/19/2003 2:43:43 PM PDT by SevenDaysInMay (Federal judges and justices serve for periods of good behavior, not life. Article III sec. 1)
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To: Cultural Jihad
With all due respect, that statement is completely naive and foolish. You can say that we are not at war against Islam, but the truth is that Islam is at war against us.

We are therefore at war, whether we like it or not.

This is not just Osama bin Laden the terrorist and his Al Qaeda group, but rather Osama bin Laden the spiritual leader of hero of an estimated 10% of muslims worldwide.

That is over 100 million muslims worldwide who support Osama bin Laden!!!

If a leader in China had the support of 10% of the Chinese people and launched an attack on us with the magnitude of 11 September, we would be at war with China.

Why is it any different with Islam?

60 posted on 10/19/2003 2:47:38 PM PDT by expatguy
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