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"China space shot a warning for West" (Brit historian sees dawn of Chinese Century)
London Sunday Telegraph ^ | Oct. 19, 03 | Andrew Roberts

Posted on 10/19/2003 11:21:18 AM PDT by churchillbuff

China's space shot is a warning for the West By Andrew Roberts, London Sunday Telegraph (Filed: 19/10/2003)

"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side," a threatening Nikita Khrushchev warned a group of Western diplomats in Moscow in 1956, adding: "We will bury you." Two events last week should warn us that, although the Soviet Union never succeeded in burying the West, Communist China might. For if history is on anyone's side at the moment, it seems to be moving in favour of Beijing's totalitarian rulers.

The astronaut Yang Liwei orbited the earth 14 times in 21 hours on Wednesday, adding China to the elite club of America and Russia as the only three powers to have undertaken manned space exploration. By 2010 China hopes, in the words of its chief space scientist, Ouyang Ziyuan, to "set up a base on the Moon and mine its riches for the benefit of humanity". Since China's entire space programme is controlled by the People's Liberation Army (PLA), it is unlikely that humanity's benefit is high on China's agenda. As Lt-Gen Edward Anderson, the deputy commander of US Northern Command, has put it: "It will not be long before space becomes a battleground."

Also last week, the banking colossus HSBC announced that 4,000 British jobs are to be lost when it closes its processing and call centre operations in Birmingham, Swansea, Sheffield and Brentwood. Those jobs will now go to China, India and Malaysia, where labour costs are far lower. Unlike the space mission, the HSBC news was confined to the back pages, but its long-term implications are no less momentous; service-sector as well as manufacturing jobs are migrating east.

Napoleon called China "a sleeping giant", and predicted that "When she awakes she will shake the world". Well, now China is wide awake, and armed with an economy that is widely expected to outgrow that of the US by 2025. Moreover, she is casting baleful stares at the English-speaking civilisation that she believes kept her backward in the days of Western imperialism. The Second Boxer Rising has begun, but this time it is being fought on the battlefield of trade. (Beijing's trade surplus with the US now stands at $100 billion.) China's rulers are utterly ruthless; she has an army of 2.3 million men; her neighbours are understandably fearful; and she nurses proud but wounded national ambitions. It is high time that we woke up to the threat that an awakened Chinese empire poses to our present global hegemony.

Between 1993 and 2002, the capitalist coastal provinces of China grew in per capita GDP from $815 to $2,020 - a staggering 148 per cent - while their population only grew from 321 million to 355 million, or 10 per cent. Over the same period, EU per capita GDP rose by 10 per cent on a 2 per cent population increase, the US increased its per capita GDP by 43 per cent as its population increased by 10 per cent. If the Chinese economy continues to expand at something between 9 per cent and 11 per cent a year, as most economists expect, the 21st will be the Chinese Century, just as the 20th has been the American one.

By embracing free markets in its coastal provinces, China has unleashed the initiative of the most instinctively capitalist people on the planet. "One Country, Two Systems" has been a triumph for the octogenarian master-strategists of Beijing. Furthermore, by learning the lesson of the Soviet Union's overvalued rouble and therefore keeping its currency, the RMB, pegged at an undervalued rate to the dollar, China has boosted its exports to an astonishing degree. City analysts predict that next year they will rise by between 15 and 20 per cent.

The world will be a very different, and far less comfortable place for us when China displaces the US as the world's greatest power, as seems inevitable by the middle of of this century. When the imperial baton passed from Britain to the US, at least the succeeding power spoke our language, shared our values, and had twice been our battle-tested ally. By contrast, China is one of the most vicious states in existence. In its 2003 annual report, Amnesty International highlighted the way that in that country, "serious human rights violations continued and in some respects the situation deteriorated. Tens of thousands of people continue to be arbitrarily detained or imprisoned for peacefully exercising their rights to freedom of expression, association or belief. Torture and ill-treatment remain widespread".

Apologists for Chinese totalitarianism argue that a country of 1.5 billion people cannot be ruled democratically, yet neighbouring India, with over one billion, has managed it well enough. Chinese democracy activists dread the coming of the Olympics to Beijing in 2008, since whenever a spotlight is trained on their country there are ruthless security crackdowns, such as those for the 10th anniversary of the Tiananmen Square massacre in June 1999.

With a foot on the neck of Tibet, a projected 10 per cent increase in defence spending for 2004, ceaseless sabre-rattling against democratic Taiwan, and an officer corps that is by turns paranoiac and jingoistic, China also protects North Korea's nuclear weapons programme. This behaviour hardly augurs well for a peaceful Chinese Century.

Of course the Chinese themselves regard a superpower status, and the glory days of the Middle Kingdom, as no more than proper deserts for the country that invented printing, gunpowder and Ming porcelain. In 1500 China accounted for one-quarter of the world's GDP, a figure that rose to nearly one-third by 1820, when it suddenly began to collapse. A return to such global eminence by 2025 would simply confirm the Chinese in their belief that the period since 1820 has merely been an unfortunate blip.

For the rest of us, a world dominated by modern Chinese political culture would mean nothing less than the kind of "new Dark Age" that Churchill warned would be the consequence of a Nazi victory. The hymnal reminds us of how "Earth's proud empires pass away" and, of course, the present hegemony of the English-speaking peoples cannot last forever, but it will be tragic when - not if - Western civilisation is overtaken in power, wealth and prestige by Chinese Communo-militarism.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: china; chinesemilitary; clashofcivilizations; empire; shenzhou5; warning
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1 posted on 10/19/2003 11:21:19 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff
What is more scary, 1 billion uneducated communist lead by a few semi-educated political dictators or nearly 300 million educated people who are led by representitives elected to serve the people???

China, can suck my BA11$

2 posted on 10/19/2003 11:24:15 AM PDT by Porterville (The Federal Government will make the rules... now shut up and take your Prozac!!!!)
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To: Porterville
What really sucks is that China's space capabilities are accelerating while ours continues to crumble. They not anywhere near America's capabilities, but they're learning fast. Our government is crippled by corruption at every turn.

We put people on the moon 30+ years ago. Now we can't even send a decent probe to Mars because we're spending the money on welfare and free pills for old people. Great trade-off.

3 posted on 10/19/2003 11:31:50 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Stop the violins!! Visualize whirled peas...)
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To: churchillbuff
China's problem will be industrial power. Oil and natural gas mainly.
4 posted on 10/19/2003 11:34:04 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
>China's space capabilities are accelerating while ours continues to crumble

Your assumption is
our space capabilities
are all at NASA...

Do you really think
military and black ops
only have NASA?!

5 posted on 10/19/2003 11:35:10 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: churchillbuff
This man gets it.

(No, I have no idea why he included Ming porcelain instead of the compass, another Chinese invention that changed the world.)

6 posted on 10/19/2003 11:37:25 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Porterville
representitives elected to serve the people

Does your representative really serve the people? Mine, Diane Feinstein, has most of her personal fortune tied up in China, Shanghai hotels and steel mills. Do you think she serves the interest of the American people, or is more interested in servicing her own investments abroad?
7 posted on 10/19/2003 11:38:11 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
"What really sucks is that China's space capabilities "

We are preping re entry military space vehicles and all types of military applications on sea, land and air... I doubt, with a larger military budget than all the world combined, we are falling behind a bunch of slave labor in China.

8 posted on 10/19/2003 11:38:34 AM PDT by Porterville (The Federal Government will make the rules... now shut up and take your Prozac!!!!)
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To: theFIRMbss
The Brits have been talking about the Chinese Century since the Opium Wars.
9 posted on 10/19/2003 11:38:56 AM PDT by Comus
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
"China's space capabilities are accelerating..."

Thanks to Bill Clinton, who for 8 years did everything he could to pass our critical technology to the Chicoms -- while they infused huge amounts into his campaign coffers. Under any democrat, the Chinese will control our national elections and have unfettered access to our national security secrets.

10 posted on 10/19/2003 11:41:59 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: hedgetrimmer
"...in servicing her own investments abroad?"

...and at home. Let's not forget Cosco/Long Beach and her interests in Chinese arms smuggling.

11 posted on 10/19/2003 11:43:33 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Bonaparte
Thanks to Bill Clinton

Making excuses for lazy Americans blissing out on MTV instead of having a vigorous space program and studying science and math will ensure Chinese domination very quickly.

12 posted on 10/19/2003 11:46:55 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: Bonaparte
We are agreed. The question is, how do we reform our government? Who is willing to work to educate voters on their responsiblity to our Nation, not to their own pocketbooks but to elect officials who want to keep America and not sell her off to the highest foreign bidder?
13 posted on 10/19/2003 11:50:56 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: RightWhale
Many years of NEA and leftist domination of public schooling has drastically lowered our world ranking in hard sciences, making us utterly dependent on imported talent. Meanwhile, only 25% of eligible voters even bother with elections, preferring instead to whine endlessly about how the feds aren't taking care of them enough. It's a recipe for disaster.
14 posted on 10/19/2003 11:55:18 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Bonaparte
The guy who wrote this article is on drugs. The Chinese state as we know it will be destroyed in civil war within 20 years.

When you take 100 million girl babies and kill them, what do you do with their 100 million husbands (who will never so much as get a kiss from a female) when they've grown? You set them on each other to kill each other off. Not rocket science.
15 posted on 10/19/2003 11:58:22 AM PDT by Ronly Bonly Jones
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To: Bonaparte
Many years of NEA and leftist domination

The parents, who in their day didn't like school, have allowed and encouraged this. They don't like science, see no need for a national space program, and do not encourage their own kids to study math and science. Of course another country that is excited about space and science will eventually do better.

16 posted on 10/19/2003 11:59:43 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Key questions, ht. And IMO, too many are terrified of the answer, which begins and ends with obedience to God almighty Without that, intelligence, courage and persistence will count for little.
17 posted on 10/19/2003 12:01:58 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: churchillbuff
I wouldn't worry about a thing. The Chinese have already bought all people in D.C. that they need to dominate the world in few decades. Don't worry!
18 posted on 10/19/2003 12:03:01 PM PDT by observer5
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To: Ronly Bonly Jones
You pose some provocative thoughts, RBJ. Did you know that in spite of an abundance of women in Nazi Germany, the ranks of the SA, SS, Hitler Youth, etc. were shot through with rampant homosexuality? Post-war interviews as well as letters of the wives of people like Rudolf Hess reveal totally barren marriages intended strictly for cover. Those who knew Hitler best all remarked that he "never looked at women."
19 posted on 10/19/2003 12:08:50 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Normal4me; RightWhale; demlosers; Prof Engineer; BlazingArizona; ThreePuttinDude; Brett66; ...
We have a choice, either send humans to Mars to remain number one nation or send probes just and be number the choice is yours...

Space Ping! This is the space ping list! Let me know if you want on or off this list!
20 posted on 10/19/2003 12:12:26 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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