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To: Looking for Diogenes
By the way, nobody is arguing for a theocracy or the fact that the founders were arguing for same but you seem to be arguing against it. I don't know of anybody here who will argue for it so you're beating a dead horse.
75 posted on 10/19/2003 5:09:55 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
By the way, nobody is arguing for a theocracy or the fact that the founders were arguing for same but you seem to be arguing against it.

Was the United States founded on Judeo-Christian principles?
In the end, I think the question that Christianity has influenced many of our laws has to go unquestioned. It is evident by simply picking up a Bible, and then comparing it to our laws. They are (or were) identical in many places. Given all of the evidence presented above, do you really believe that we would have these morals were it not for the effect Christianity has had on society?
The anonymous author of the posted article muddles two issues, though the blame may go to his editor, if there was one.

Was the U.S. found on Judeo-Christian principles? If it was the author makes no attempt to name any of those principles. I would argue that there is little or no evidence that the Constitution is based on the Bible.

Do any of our laws derive from the Bible? That's a different question. I would argue that a number of laws, most of them repealed, derive from the Christian religion, such mandated sabbath observance laws and blasphemy laws. But just because we have those laws (and had them before the country was founded) doens't mean that our country was founded on the principles embodied in them.

80 posted on 10/19/2003 5:25:21 PM PDT by Looking for Diogenes
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To: jwalsh07; Looking for Diogenes; FreedomMan_CA
"By the way, nobody is arguing for a theocracy or the fact that the founders were arguing for same"

Exactly.

"...Non-establishment was intended and this is why I believe in non-establishment; but I do not believe in separation of church and state if we take by separation that view of hostility of government towards, specifically in this case, Christian religion that is being practiced now.

How do I know that separation was not intended? Because they didn't write separation, they wrote non-establishment.

That's what the First Amendment says so there is no illegitimacy here in religious people, or religious institutions, or religious convictions informing public policy. ...

What's really curious to me is that we have a radicalizing here in our culture, but the radicalizing is not coming from the right. The loss is not coming from the right, the radicalizing of the culture and the loss of freedom is coming from the left."

See more excerpts below from the commentary that can be found here:

Culture Wars II - by Gregory Koukl
http://www.str.org/free/commentaries/misc_topics/cul-war2.htm

"...Now it seems, by the way, that the Founders, even if they were devout Christians, did not desire a thorough-going Christian nation. ..."

86 posted on 10/19/2003 5:35:39 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (Why do America's enemies desperately want DemocRATS back in power?)
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