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To: rightcoast
I do not think the republic was founded on religious values. I think the constition came out of the founders' understanding of what made the Roman Republic work and fail and of what worked in the English parliment. The nation's government was formed more on Roman and English values than on any religious values.

If you want to see some scary parallels to the functioning of the current political scene, read "Livys - History of Early Rome."

18 posted on 10/19/2003 10:52:16 AM PDT by FreedomSurge
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To: FreedomSurge
The nation's government was formed more on Roman and English values than on any religious values.

Which Roman values?
Are you denying history post-Constantine?
How convenient and circular!

29 posted on 10/19/2003 11:11:44 AM PDT by Publius6961 (40% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: FreedomSurge
I think the constition came out of the founders' understanding of what made
the Roman Republic work and fail and of what worked in the English parliment.
The nation's government was formed more on Roman and English values than on any religious values.


I agree with the assessment of the philosophical source the Founders used to build our government.

I suspect the real reason this sort of thread gets all sort of noise is that
there is now a push in the country to censor any thought that (at least some)
Founders were imploring a higher power at the time they were deliberating.

Thanks to the biased teaching of history for the past generation or so,
people seem to be clueless that the folks trying to erase the country's religious
heritage from the commons would make Stalin proud (Ref: the book "The Commissar Vanishes"
a collection of series of photos in which Stalin had disfavored party members "disappear"
from various edits of the photos.)
30 posted on 10/19/2003 11:18:51 AM PDT by VOA
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To: FreedomSurge
I do not think the republic was founded on religious values.

With all due respect, I believe you are confusing legal principles with religious values.

60 posted on 10/19/2003 3:15:26 PM PDT by iconoclast
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